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Should we teach our kids about the dangers of internet pornography?


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Initial post: 20 May 2013 16:17:07 BDT
Spin says:
Or should we simply create a web where adult content is not freely available but must be subscribed to ie: requested.

Posted on 20 May 2013 16:29:24 BDT
Ian says:
You can try, but in the meantime anyone pretending their teenagers aren't watching porn on the web is deluding themself.

Also anybody thinking a middle-aged parent or teacher telling them how evil it is will achieve anything other than driving the few who haven't already to search for some is deluded too.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 16:36:52 BDT
What are the dangers?...

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 16:46:20 BDT
TomC says:
Simon,

An excellent question.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 16:52:21 BDT
Spin says:
Simon: Jesus H. Grow up.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 16:53:10 BDT
Ian says:
You could sprain your wrist, or end up with one arm bigger than the other. And you might go blind.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 16:59:52 BDT
Spin says:
IN; I have always believed that the "freedom of the net" is not necessarily a good thing given the nature of the sites available. I believe access to such sites should be by request, as are other media entertainments. I do not mean they should necessarily be paid for, but that ones access to the web should contain only sites that are acceptable to all age ranges. Porn should be made available by specific request, not freely available to anyone of any age. If this cannot be implemented, then it is up to the parents to moniter their kids use of the net. I do not let my kids use the net except in the sitting-room where we can keep an eye on what is being accessed on purpose or by accident.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 17:04:15 BDT
Thanks Tom...

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 17:05:50 BDT
Spinny...you created this thread...so what is the answer to the question?...what are the dangers of internet pornography...?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 17:09:38 BDT
Spin says:
Simon: if you have no objection to kids viewing pornography, in every possible form, and do not understand the dangers of kids viewing pornography, then that is your problem. I'll let you get back to teaching your kids about anal sex and simulated rape...

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 17:16:19 BDT
Ian says:
The size of the internet has long since reached the point that it is unregulatable (unless you're willing to ban everything and then start choosing which content to allow; which I believe is how Apple's app store works).

It would be great if everybody using the web and creating content did so for the best of motives. However, if there is money to be made then some people will act in whatever way will enable them to do so. If your children are young enough then having your PCs in a part of the house where you can monitor their activities is wise (but many parents, including those who ought to know better won't bother).

Once your kids are old enough to have their own phone, tablet or laptop then your chances of monitoring what they are doing on the web is vanishingly small. So the best you can hope to do is discuss sensibly the content of the web (not just porn but identity theft, fraud and annoying idiots in online forums) and hope they are well enough equipped to deal with it sensibly and speak to you when they feel they're made a mistake.

As I've said before, lectures from parents and teachers will do more harm than good, but rational discussion might help.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 17:32:09 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 May 2013 18:00:53 BDT
TomC says:
Simon,

Such moments are to be cherished :-)

I doubt however that you will get a reasoned, evidenced answer to it. Instead we shall have much frothing and ranting, outrage, resigned hand-wringing, ending up with the patronising "No doubt you are right".

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 17:38:13 BDT
Spinny....again what are the dangers?

Posted on 20 May 2013 19:52:22 BDT
The Spinnaker seems sexually repressed, this could explain why, as evidenced by his posts, he's obsessed with sex. And with what he believes to be its harmful effects on others, in particular.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 19:57:15 BDT
Oh dear Simone, the purpose of this thread, as with all the Spinnaker's threads of a 'sexual nature' is to get himself off by getting us discussing naughty things with him.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 13:17:09 BDT
Spin says:
IN; But China and middle eastern nations manage to block reception of some net content (in order to save their citizens from the wicked ways of the West), so why can't we block adult content requiring it to be subscribed to instead of it being instantly accessible to anyone with a PC? Would this require a modification of the structure of PCs or in the technical structure of the service itself? Is that why companies hold out against creating an automatic block on these sites? Too expensive and radical to put into practice?

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 14:07:24 BDT
Stu says:
hi spin it seems just because you care about your kids these days its a bad thing to some people on this thread.ive bought my daughter a kindle for her birthday in a months time when she will be 7 years old i only got her that because all the rest of the kids in her class had or were getting one,and also my ex-partner assured me that she would lock it so to speak so that she could not get to anything other than games and learning her homework on it,so that reassured me enough to buy her one,knowing some of the rubbish that goes off on the kindles,please dont think you are wrong

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 14:26:17 BDT
Spin says:
Stu: My kids have Kindles. Cost a fortune. And they never use them. Waste of money I could not afford to throw away lightly (damn Santa!) They, like me, prefer actual books. Its like when Vinyl LPs disappeared and where replaced by crap CDs. I prefer Vinyl and Books. So sue me...=) My kids want I-pads, but I do not see the need as we have a family PC and the schools library has access to the net. I think its "trend", not need that drives the demand for the latest model of mobile phone and computer.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 14:35:03 BDT
Stu says:
so do they want one of their own now? is that why you started this thread up?because no-one seems to care what their kids watch or see do they?

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 14:49:20 BDT
Spin says:
stu; No, my original question was in response to a BBC news report that educational institutions are recommending that children be taught the dangers of the internet (they specifically mentioned pornography). They stressed that they had no intention of teaching young kids about porn or violence, just to instill in them a realisation that the net can be disturbing, upsetting and shocking and that certain applications of "searching the net" must be avoided. Much like teaching kids not to talk to strangers.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 15:01:29 BDT
Stu says:
why did they mention it in one sentence and deny it in another? how old were they going to be when they started teaching the children all this? how old are yours spin?

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 15:16:40 BDT
Spin says:
Stu: They were talking about kids of kids of primary school age. I agree that you cannot tell a young kid not to do something without telling them why. That is my point. The fact that the dangers of the net are mostly related to violence and sex makes it difficult to explain to young kids. That is why I advocate an automatic block on such sites on every PC, laptop, I-pad or phone. Only adults, who can verify their status, should be able to access such material. For gods sake, Facebook, used by kids worldwide had open images of actual beheadings. Lastly, my kids are old enough to know the dangers but young enough to let curiosity get the better of them. I know. Been there, done that. =)

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 15:38:50 BDT
Stu says:
exactly i wouldnt like them teaching my daughter such things just yet thats why having known what goes on on it i only agreed with the kindle cos my ex said she would put the blocks on it,ive seen and heard about the rubbish that goes off on a thing like the kindle,and i know she will be wanting a pc soon,so she can use the one at home or mine first so i know what shes doing

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2013 15:50:07 BDT
Spin says:
Stu: of you do not teach your kids the dangers of the net, they may log on and think they are communicating with a child of their own age and interests when in fact the are in contact with a paedophile. The net is great for information and entertainment, but remember the dangers. I have taught my kids the dangers and explained to them why it is dangerous. I value the safety of my kids more than my avoidance of the embarrassment at having to explain the phenomenon of "sexual predators". If knowing about sex and its various elements, good and bad, helps my kids avoid danger, no matter what age they are, then to hell with the social taboos of discussing sex with kids.

Posted on 21 May 2013 16:18:10 BDT
Spin says:
There is no slang for eating and drinking (except in mild terms) but sexual slang and slang referring to defecation are common. Why? Why is sex equated with defecation? A human act not worthy of discussion but hidden and refered to in slang and swear words? The fear of a society over a certain phenomenon is reflected in how they refer to it. Jesus wept.
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