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In reply to an earlier post on 6 Apr 2013 13:39:47 BDT
The One says:
Bureaucracy?.......we have it because social housing is controlled by local authorities and housing association......give the houses away at market value and let the tenants become owners and let them take charge of their own destiny.

The idea that we employ people to hold tenants hands and wipe their bums IS typical of government 'lording' it over the people.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Apr 2013 13:51:15 BDT
The One,

<<give the houses away at market value>>

What do you mean?

I'm in favour of not having hand holding.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Apr 2013 15:40:00 BDT
easytiger says:
"The state will always be able to build cheaper than the private sector". I've just explained to you why they can't. The state cannot 'order' a private company to build anything- NK perhaps but not here. Social housing contracts are put out to tender to private companies. most will not touch them because you price 'A' and when the work starts the jobsworths want 'B' with knobs on. More expensive? Simple, you have to pay. They don't understand because if they did they'ld have a proper job.That's just the start. It continues like that and everyday at work is a warzone- not enjoyable at all.
Wised up companies do it on a design and build basis. They design it, the council approves it and they build it on an agreed lump-sum basis with no variations or interference. And guess what, because of the FAF which will inevitably arise with the 3rd rate eejits who work for the council, normal BoQ rates are upped by 20%+.
We used to have Direct labour Organisations in councils-great idea, cut out the profit margin. They didn't have to tender and every single project the council ran was late and ran out of money. Thatcher made the councils put the work out to tender, which the DLOs had to tender for as well. They hardly won because they were always more expensive than a private contractor. They then had no work so they were all laid-off with big handshakes from us the taxpayers. Dream on.

Posted on 7 Apr 2013 11:54:27 BDT
Those affected by bedroom tax have more bedrooms than they require paid for by the taxpayer, they should themselves pay for that luxury or put themselves forward to be re-homed. End of argument.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2013 12:37:35 BDT
The One says:
Instead of being responsible for the properties........sell them directly to the value / loans from the banks.

People need to feel they got a stake in their future and working to pay rent to enrich others doesn't motivate or make people's slavery.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2013 12:44:47 BDT
The One says:
Again it has nothing to do with fictional organisation like councils or private all to do with the person in charge. Employ the right person then council services can and will improve.

In the past, any problems that council had was nothing to do with the council. A council is just a powers or free was the people employed who were incompetent.

It's the distinction between understanding who was responsible, council or employers.....95% of the people blame the council ='s the employers.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2013 13:54:02 BDT
Who selects the <<right person>>? What qualities will this person have? There needs to be a few hundred of them, not just one. And who will authorise them to throw out the rules, regs and bureaucracy?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Apr 2013 08:46:13 BDT
easytiger says:
Actually what you are saying and the way you say it sounds you are definately council material; no grasp of the real world.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Apr 2013 10:59:44 BDT
His moniker's not <<the One>> by chance, he is the right person to run it.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Apr 2013 20:58:22 BDT
The One says:
Council material = nonsense.

Real world, oh yes, bring real world operations into public services and you get better services.

Posted on 8 Apr 2013 23:49:15 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Apr 2013 12:03:50 BDT
kraka says:

Buyer collects.

Reason for evasion.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2013 09:19:56 BDT
...dats a kraka.

Posted on 9 Apr 2013 13:59:29 BDT
kraka says:
First time buyers find housing market flooded with spare bedrooms for sale.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2013 15:26:12 BDT
...even better.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2013 16:19:12 BDT
Keith says:
Someone knows his Orwell !!

Posted on 12 Apr 2013 17:47:44 BDT
One of the principle reasons why there is a social housing shortage is because of uncontrolled immigration.

Firm up border controls and cut child benefit for a few years - that'll sort it.

Posted on 12 Apr 2013 19:41:34 BDT
Agricola says:
Why should some people have the cost of their housing paid for by others?

Others: who, as likely as not, are poorer than the recipients of this subsidy!

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Apr 2013 19:51:02 BDT
Bellatori says:
Not any more...
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