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In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2013 19:47:08 BDT
T. S. C. says:
'Spin says:

Whose side is the US on. the Syrian government or the Syrian rebels? Why, the rebels, of course! Why? Because Russia and China support the Syrian government. Despite the fact that they are supporting the Islamicists they are at war with, the US will support them... If it were not so serious, it would be laughable...'

I see it all as a game that rich and powerful people play. It is deadly serious but I don't at the same take any of it seriously to be honest, nor worry about it either.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2013 19:56:57 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 May 2013 19:58:42 BDT
T. S. C. says:
'M. E. Phelan says:

I agree; and I also had a lot of respect for Mo Mowlam who I believe was formed from the same mould as Michael Foot, in as much as she cared nothing for how she looked but was all substance......'

She was indeed a woman of substance, and whatever your politics she tried to do something with the power she had for the good of others.

'I have no faith in our Government even now... I believe it serves their interest for there conflict in Ireland still........'

It serves people in power all over the world at times to have a defining situation like the Troubles in Northern Ireland, something that takes people's minds off other things and something which means governments can suspend normal laws to further control people in some way. I can't say whether I believe all the conspiracy theories but the reality is that governments everywhere act in the interests of the rich and the powerful; that's just the way it is. You'd be naive to think otherwise.

'It is just a pity that all the genuinely decent people don't just get together and start their own party? Then again, how would we know because the elite owned media would crucify them? imho.'

And even if some such party did come along, how many people who might genuinely benefit from some much needed fairness and social justice would be the first to denigrate it anyway and vote for UKIP or some such other irrelevant anachronisms? We know that if people vote for splinter groups, all that keeps happening is the Tories get in again; but what can you do? Politics is a tug of war, one side pulling furiously in one direction and the other side pulling furiously in the other; I get fed up with it to be honest. Whoever gets in its just the same result or outcome isn't it?

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2013 21:10:25 BDT
Pipkin says:
Absolutely true T,
Whoever gets in 'we' get the same outcome....Nothing actually changes.
Except another of the 'Hydra's 'heads gets to feed?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2013 15:50:50 BDT
Spin says:
ME; Indeed. So is it not time "we" get "in"? After centuries of the same old BS claiming to represent our interests, is it not about time we actually changed society for ourselves instead of relying on others to do it for us?

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2013 16:01:53 BDT
Pipkin says:
And how do you propose we do that Spin/I? I'd vote for Gorgeous George if he was in my area... shall I duck now?
Have a look at this item.... I love this man who says everything I would like to say...... He really socks it to the stupid interviewer.
It's out of cinc so you will have to close your eyes, or get distracted.
I like honesty, even if it does sometimes stick in my craw.

Shall you be voting for Gordon Brown :)
Mags x

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2013 16:11:02 BDT
Spin says:
ME; We do that by shutting down the source of political power; your labour. Take to the streets and demand change, do not mumble on websites or moan to ones fellows. Take action. As long as you serve the government, you will not change it.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2013 16:12:07 BDT
Spin says:
ME: PS; "Gorgeous George"? Who's he when he's at home? =)

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2013 16:28:27 BDT
Pipkin says:
Sadly I no longer 'labour' except in the home and garden......and am incapable of 'taking to the streets.'
But I do write to members of the Government and Council ...

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2013 16:32:50 BDT
Spin says:
ME; But your kids and grand-kids will labour...Instill in them an opposition to the belief that they are only worth the price of their labour..

In reply to an earlier post on 15 May 2013 16:48:45 BDT
Pipkin says:
Do you think I would not have done this already Spin? I have given them a firm grounding in the inequality of politics... But they are adults now and make up their own minds.
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