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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 05:58:23 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 08:03:41 GMT
Ian says:
"I take 9000iu a day...way above the silly dosage advised by many."

Why? What is it that you think that sort of level of Vit D supplement will do for you?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 08:08:18 GMT
IN,

You contradict yourself.

A pair of shoes in the Chinese factory where they are made are not worth a toss to me, but once they have been shipped and delivered to my local shoe shop.
where I can examine them, compare them with others and try them for fit, they are worth money to me.

<<Retailers export money in exchange for goods>>, what are you on about?

Retailers <<provide a service which we all want and need but they add no value to the UK economy>>. Any one who provides a service that people use adds value.

Why don't you go to Simone's shop and see if he's got some tablets that will help you think straight?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 08:10:19 GMT
easytiger says:
Whaa! Like the ones he's on?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 09:30:22 GMT
Dan Fante says:
The answer would involve scientific evidence so you wouldn't believe it anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 10:38:22 GMT
Read and study I.N...read some books....find out for yourself...research your own experience...look on Amazon for books !!!

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 10:39:41 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Surely it's a reasonable question to ask someone working in the industry.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 10:39:46 GMT
The fount does not live in either-or land....Din Funty.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 11:02:51 GMT
What's he on?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 11:13:41 GMT
Dear Dun Fontoes...research your OWN experience...do NOT...REPEAT DO NOT rely on the fount...he is merely a guide..a finger pointing.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 11:14:23 GMT
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Beloved..who, what, where...which way did he go George...?????

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 11:17:49 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Anyone would think you were being evasive because you couldn't answer the question.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 11:26:53 GMT
What question Doon Finties?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 13:23:53 GMT
Last edited by the author on 31 Jan 2013 16:30:50 GMT
Ian says:
Why do you take such high does of vitamin D? What do you believe it does for you?

OK, maybe that's 2 questions, or maybe it's the same one rephrased. I can't search my own experience, books or the internet for something only you know; the reason you choose to take such a high dose of Vit D and/or what benefit you believe you derive from it. Only you can answer that question (or you can continue to evade it as you usually do).

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 13:27:50 GMT
Ian says:
I don't see where the contradiction is Gordon. I have no doubt the importer, retailer, etc. are all providing you with a useful service so you can choose and buy some shoes. But adding value to our economy? They're just helping you distribute your money. No new wealth or new products were created, so no value added to the economy. A very small percentage of the money you pay for your shoes goes to the manufacturer in China and is therefore lost from the Uk economy, how can we as a nation get richer by this means?

I have no doubt Simon has some fish oil pills (and lots of snake oil pills) in his shop. They won't help my brain function.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 14:07:34 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 14:58:25 GMT
Ian says:
Show me the contradiction...

Why must something which provides a useful service necessarily be adding value to our economy? What new wealth is being created?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 15:18:46 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 16:29:52 GMT
Ian says:
Gordon, stop repeating yourself & listen to my point:

1. I have repeatedly acknowledged that pair of shoes in a local shop/on your feet is more useful to you than they are in China. But...

2. How does you giving money to a retailer in exchange for goods such as your shoes make the UK wealthier? Money from Gordon's pocket/bank account which was in the UK goes into the pocket/bank account of High Street Shoes Ltd who are in the UK. There is no increase in the wealth of the UK as a nation; just some wealth redistributed from wealthy Gordon to a poor, struggling shoe retailer (or, if you prefer; wealth redistributed from poverty-stricken Gordon to a multi-millionaire shoe magnate).

3. You say the shoes come from China - so a percentage of the price you paid for the shoes must have gone to China in exchange for the shoes. The only economy which benefited is China's. I'm glad you're happy with your shoes and had an enjoyable retail experience but neither you nor the retailer (or any of middle men in this transaction) did anything to improve the wealth of the UK - we got a tiny bit poorer. That happens every time someone buys an imported product. It's worse if High Street Shoes Ltd export their profits to another country.

The only people/firms who genuinely make us wealthier as a nation are those who take money from foreign countries in exchange for goods or services - in that way the UK as a nation becomes richer and some foreign nation gets poorer. UK retailers are not involved in those sorts of contracts - that would only be manufacturing industries and exporters of goods.

Simon is just a retailer - he provides a wonderful service to customers who need or desire the many marvellous supplements he sells and no doubt he provides a fantastic retail experience so people will travel form miles away just to soak up the atmosphere in his shop and listen to his wise advice. All of this makes the world a better place than if he just stayed at home and chatted on the web all day. But he does absolutely nothing to make the UK as a nation richer - so if he gets stuck in a traffic jam for 10 minutes once a fortnight I could not care less (unless I'm waiting outside his shop in desperate need of fish oil pills and homeopathic arnica).

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 16:51:50 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 16:56:45 GMT
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Ian says:
Been there, done that. Please explain how moving wealth round and around within a country makes it richer?

If one of your kids washes the car and you pay him a fiver for it, is your household 5 better off? If not, how much better of is it?

If it cost him 50p for the sponge he used, presumably your household is now only 4.50 richer than if he hadn't bothered?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 16:57:51 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 16:59:20 GMT
Ian says:
Copious references is not always a good indication of correctness. Did you check the references?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 17:01:10 GMT
IN...yes I use pubmed.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Jan 2013 17:25:16 GMT
Ian says:
Good answer. I take none whatsoever and have a fantastic immune system and am irritatingly cheerful. I have no idea about my gene expression - how would I set about checking?

I probably should take some Vit D as it seems most of us are deficient (it's never sunny where I live and when it is rarely warm enough to make much Vitamin D) but I certainly wouldn't take anything like the dose you're on.
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