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How hard would it be to take over the UK?

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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 07:41:54 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 09:59:03 BDT
RAB says:
"All evidence (a large amount of research) seems to indicate that 'the young' (under 25, basically), are actually more political than most other generations. We have, for our sins, bred a very political younger generation. Indications are that they are fiscally conservative, but liberal in most other ways."

I'm in that bracket and I'd say as a generalisation it's a pretty sound one. There's mainly an idealist attitude among the politicly aware in my generation, however the majority don't really care. I do think the trend has always been for young people to be more politcly active, and as people get older they tend to be more disillusioned and apathetic. Certainly looking at the 60s it seems most political change was being brought about by young people.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 10:20:07 BDT
Pipkin says:
There are 'some' young people who are politically aware, and active but the majority don't care... and I believe it has been engineered that way. Although I was very pleased when I watched Question time from Edinburgh, to see that all the young people in that audience were extremely switched on and that gave me a lot of hope.
You are right >looking at the 60s it seems most political change was being brought about by young people.< So it never before in those numbers, and I was one of them, and still am.... I don't think it is disillusionment or apathy on our part as we get older, I think it is the lack of mobility and ability to be physically activated any more. But as you will know if you have ever followed my posts, I do my best to educate and motivate people to investigate for themselves. Unfortunately there are those with vested interests who would try and shut me up, and others who might have something useful to say, by calling names and labelling, without ever having anything of any import to say themselves? Which is sad really.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 10:49:45 BDT
RAB says:
"I believe it has been engineered that way."

I really don't subscribe to that view at all unfortunately. I think naturally the people who paid more attention in school, are that bit more intelligent, become politicly aware and in this age it's abundantly possible to have alternative views and be able to air them. I have no doubt the powers that be want to influence and control us, that's just logical as it's in their best interests, but I don't think it's for nefarious purposes and I don't think it works.

But seriously, in the digital age I think the control of information and opinion is damn near impossible.

I'm not sure what the point I'm getting at here is, I've had lack of sleep, but in my experience life is a lot less oppressive and miserable than a lot of people like to think, and that's in all aspects of it. But then I've always been an optimist even if my political ideas have mellowed somewhat since I was 15.

There will always be the apathetic majority simply because politics can often seem too "big picture" for a lot of people. There will always be more immediate issues to the individual that can be more easily and directly resolved than trying to get a less tangible change across the nation.

Posted on 3 Jul 2013 10:53:06 BDT
RAB says:
Apologies, that's a lot of rambling on without actually saying anything there.

Posted on 3 Jul 2013 13:23:01 BDT
The EU have managed to do it...
It takes around 50 years of secret Bilderberg meetings

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 18:34:50 BDT
Garscadden says:
The interesting thing is that the younger generation are generally more conservative than those in the medium age brackets (25 > 55). It is quite unusual to have such a politicised and conservative younger generation. It's a good thing (well... I don't agree with the conservative views, but it is refreshing to see an active and interested youth).

One recent piece about this is

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 21:22:30 BDT
Spin says:
Garscadden: You say "The younger generation are more conservative"... Wake up. The younger generation are more capitalist and profiteering. Is that not what your heroes, Thatcher and Blair, wanted? The Tories are peed off because Thatcher told the poverty stricken; Want cash? Fight for it. Be a capitalist. Screw everyone except bankers. Blair said "want a life? Contribute. Screw the bankers. It is our money that they profit from..

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Jul 2013 06:44:40 BDT
Garscadden says:
You seem to know who my heroes are, wow. You are a psychic as well as an idiot.

Posted on 4 Jul 2013 14:06:16 BDT
shakespier says:
psn: P0PC0RN-_-SL4Y3R says:"..../ Sell Wales, or turn it into an open prison.."

Why sell Wales when we are providing you with two highly paid politicians... MP in parliament and a member of the Welsh government talking shop in Cardiff. You obviously like to pay twice. Before you sell us, work out what it's costing my English friends in tax in order to maintain this duplicity. From my own standpoint we can do without one or the other. Since the welsh government members do very little I fail to see why they could not 'hop on a train' to Westminster once or twice a week, thus getting rid of every Welsh MP currently in Parliament... And I'm expecting a good price for Wales. Incidentally, it has been an open prison for centuries.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Jul 2013 17:56:39 BDT
Pipkin says:
No need to apologise, and I didn't think you were rambling at all. I understand exactly what you are saying, and I'm only glad that there are those coming along who are optimistic and aware, like you.
There always has been more immediate issues that can be more easily resolved, but I believe that these do become less important once we have children. Then the need to make choices for their future, prompt us to try and better understand Politics, and makes us realise the importance of voting, and becoming involved.. Or at least it should do if we do want to make a difference, and create a change?

Posted on 10 Jul 2013 19:37:18 BDT
Today I learn EU judges believe whole life jail terms are 'inhumane'.
Time to leave the EU.
Posted using wi-fi provided by go north east.

Posted on 10 Jul 2013 21:18:26 BDT
Spin says:
Who in their right mind would want to take over the UK anyway? A nation owned by China and the US, dictated to by the European "intelligentsia" and with a total disregard for its own population except in terms of profit. Sure, what a prize..
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