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In reply to an earlier post on 31 Dec 2010 12:46:43 GMT
wouldn't mind watching "strictly top gear". know where to buy it, good prices ,good quality etc....

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Dec 2010 14:16:42 GMT
J.Yasimoto says:
Imagine if they redesigned the TARDIS as a high performance car...

Posted on 31 Dec 2010 14:45:21 GMT
The Beeb is great. Funny how those who complain about the licence fee are happy to pay more to watch football and films and endless repeats (Dave etc) interspersed with sickening amounts of ads. And they forget they get a great variety of radio stations from the BBC.
If I have a complaint its 24 hour news. Its like an endless loop repeating every 20 mins. I never watch it as we get plenty of bulletins.

Posted on 31 Dec 2010 18:36:29 GMT
Neutral says:
LOL wrote,

" I am forced to pay for these programmes, and if I don't pay I may go to Prison". Untrue. The maximum penalty is £1000.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Dec 2010 22:25:16 GMT
"Funny how those who complain about the licence fee are happy to pay more to watch football and films and endless repeats (Dave etc) interspersed with sickening amounts of ads."

Dave is actually on freeview... and freesat. Not that it's worth much more than you pay for it.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Dec 2010 23:26:04 GMT
Thanks for the heads up QG. I can't get a decent freeview signal, due to the topography, so have had basic Sky for some time.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Dec 2010 23:42:45 GMT
If you can get Sky you can probably also get freesat and that has some useful channels that freeview doesn't. Still I think basic Sky (which I had before I moved here) is a lot better than either. In fact I really miss the History channel, Nat Geo, Discovery Science etc. on Sky and am tempted to switch back.

I suppose that my complaints about the beeb are largely triggered by the fact that I reckon they *should* be able to produce some decent educational content along the lines of those Sky channels - really should be better; and that would benefit the country as a whole (ie educationally) a lot more than much of the stuff that they do show.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Dec 2010 23:50:44 GMT
Not to mention Diners Drive Ins and Dives! Really don't mention it.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 13:54:44 GMT
RAB says:
"Top Gear, Dr Who, Strictly etc. etc. do not, imo, belong on the BBC. I am forced to pay for these programmes, and if I don't pay I may go to Prison. Many of these type of programmes belong on subscription or freeview channels, perhaps, without the cost of them, who knows, the license fee might come down in cost?"

Why don't they belong on there? Surely, if everyone has to pay the licence fee, then everyone must be catered for. I don't tend to use television to educate myself often, I use it to be entertained. And as others have mentioned, there are a bunch of radio stations available, a very useful website, and, a lot of television content. I also happen to think they produce some excellent programs. Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes and Luther are brilliant programs, all from the BBC.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 13:58:35 GMT
I agree with most of what you put forth, Queen's Gambit. I'd like to see the return of The Moral Maze, and other discussion programmes. I'd like to see late night broadcasts and flexible broadcasting hours to take into fact that some people enjoying watching good quality stuff "around-the-clock"

I'd like to see more science programmes, more educational programmes, more documentaries, more drama, etc.

I'd prefer to see it reformed rather than abolished.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 13:59:22 GMT
Top Gear?!?! *eyeroll*

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 14:00:07 GMT
Agreed, Neutral. Mr. Clarkson is nauseating...

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 14:02:01 GMT
I'd like to see more snooker (and perhaps even chess matches broadcast, as a niche market) on the BBC, rather than have to endure more football...

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 14:03:18 GMT
That would improve Top Gear by 100%....

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 14:55:50 GMT
"Why don't they belong on there? Surely, if everyone has to pay the licence fee, then everyone must be catered for. I don't tend to use television to educate myself often, I use it to be entertained."

Yes, but why should we be forced to pay for dumb entertainment? That's the issue. Following your argument the government should institute a compulsory games tax with which they provide us all with copies of Monopoly & Super Mario.

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 16:08:27 GMT
B. Bartlett says:
The Beeb is a British institution that has global reach and status. It should receive yearly standing ovations for competing as it does. It is innovative, commercially aggressive, and its product is admired in every continent. I suspect the abuse organised against it, stems mostly from that effectiveness. If it was a US company they would be chuckling at the structural advantages it has built in, that allow it to be so successful in the face of any competitor.

IMO claims of left wing bias stem from its tone, which contrasts with much of the UK's media (largely right wing in it's ownership and agenda). The BBC is still bravely attempting to negotiate a space for tolerance, decency, and fair play and for those things as being British qualities (whether justifiably so, or not). For some, that standpoint makes the deficits of their own less tolerant programme far too clear for their liking. So it must only be evidence of an organised socialist partiality, musn't it? Encouraging such exaggerations suits Murdoch's agenda. And the relentlessly drip feeding that the funding model is an affront to free markets and the rights of the individual and must be abolished only demonstrate the effective challenge the BBC's existence presents to media mogul domination. The license fee inoculates the BBC from attack by Murdoch's usual modus operandi. All he is left with, is to keep bleating through all possible channels desperately hoping to persuade the public to turn against its own. I hope very much they don't fall for it.

Which isn't to say that debates about the quality and type of programme the BBC makes can't be as vociferous and opinionated as anyone wishes. As long as it is allowed to keep making programmes...good ones and seriously awful ones.

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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 20:26:40 GMT
If everything on the Beeb suited either one or the other of the recent posters it would be a must watch round the clock. Who wants that? I can dial out the stuff I dislike and view stuff I recorded earlier on my Sky + box. Most of the time though I'm getting on with my life and letting others watch soaps, Brucie etc. What's so wrong with that?
The only thing I would change is docudramas. In the old days we had 30 minute documentaries (sometimes longer) which were very informative. Now we get less information and the whole thing is enacted by some luvvies flouncing about pretending to be Cleopatra or whatever. I really don't need to see that.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 20:44:22 GMT
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So what BBC programs are you going to record this week? About the only non brain dead program I can see looking at the schedule is an episode of Horizon on Friday. How about ... "The Secret Life of Bob Monkhouse" Wow that's exciting or "The story of light entertainment" riveting.... That lot's really worth £3BN in licence fees .... not

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 20:46:42 GMT
QG,
I haven't decided yet - too busy.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 20:51:27 GMT
Well - there's no need to hold your breath.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 20:53:32 GMT
Thanks for the heads up QG.

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 20:57:35 GMT
It's a pleasure - I'm always glad to be of service

Posted on 2 Jan 2011 00:28:19 GMT
M. Smith says:
Oh we absolutely need the BBC to balance out the Right-wing hegemony over the media that Rupert Murdoch spearheads - now THAT is pure evil, and is far wider-reaching, hateful and imbalanced.
The BBC is incredibly educational and I am indebted to the organisation for much of what I know about science, religion, politics, history and the natural world.
I am originally from the continent and for those of you who moan about the BBC - try living there and realise how lucky you actually are to have such an integral and quality media organisation!!
The licence fee is absolutely worth it because the programmes are so incredibly well made, ingenious and creative!! I have no problem with putting money towards the cause of art and culture!! If you want to moan about something why don't you moan about the high car insurance rates we have to pay or banking fees or overinflated mortgage/rent rates or the VAT increase and the extortionate cost of living/low quality of life we have in the UK??? These are all outcomes of the free market which you think our BBC should be subjected to?? You really think it's a good idea to gamble with the British people's culture and education (which needs all the input it can get seeing as University fees will soon exclude the vast majority of the population sorely in need of quality education)... Is it not something worth guarding, preserving, developing and investing in??? Take the licence fee away and you really will get the trash you want.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Jan 2011 00:46:38 GMT
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Posted on 2 Jan 2011 01:18:12 GMT
M. Smith says:
Intelligence is probably an important part of every country's foreign policy...but would funds for this be raised through TV licensing??? Isn't there a budget for intelligence?
It's interesting to compare but SKY TV as far as I can tell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sky_Broadcasting) had a turnover of around £4000million in 2006, whereas the BBC had a turnover of £784million (http://www.bbcworldwide.com/annualreviews/review2006/financialreview.htm) Huge sums but an even huger discrepancy.
Now in this case it makes SKY tv look pretty bad compared to the BBC as to the quality of their programmes - I have spent a fair few hours flicking through the kind of repetitive rubbish that gets broadcast on SKY.
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