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Swivel Eyed Loons - which party should they support now?


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In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:00:40 BDT
Yeah, yeah...what is the evidence for psychotherapy or psychoanalysis. You really need to get out of your head and live in the experiential world. Try some NLP on yourself and see if it changes you...research your own experience, rather than simply accepting others words...become more mature.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:01:27 BDT
Tony...stay upbeat..all is well...

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:06:26 BDT
I'll try and grow up Sime, and get out of my head (I did that on Friday actually). I'll go and live in the 'experiential world' (lovely pseudo psychobabble that Sime: you'll go a long way with the gullible).

I'll throw myself at the first pseudo-scientific cult that promises me wealth and self-improvement without the hard work of educating myself.

That's what being an adult is all about!

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:08:54 BDT
Okay Tony....let's try another way...try everything, explore the world...test...test...try some NLP...be open...if it is fraudulent for you...that is your reality...however without experience your view is worthless.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:29:56 BDT
Ian says:
"I am using the word generally to indicate a % above fifty.."

Aah, in that case it should be pretty easy to answer your previous question:

"Can you find a human who does NOT delete, distort and generalise?"

Apparently nearly half of them don't.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:33:29 BDT
Why would I want it? I'm perfectly happy as I am. I have problems like everyone else but I find ways to solve them. I have no reason to resort to any old fad which is designed to cater for the gullible and insecure.

I don't go to sťances either, I feel no need to and have no wish to. If it makes you happy Sime, well live and let live. But you can't expect me or anybody else to fall in with the nonsense you try and pass off as knowledge and understanding when it is clearly either vague or wrong.

The trouble with experience is that what we experience is channelled through our capacity for understanding (not neurology but cognition) and our feelings about our experiences. If I am a naÔve and insecure person who feels inadequate then my experience of the world or other people will be shot through with such lack of understanding and sense of myself.

What is real for a paranoid or a narcissist in their experience is not the same as it is for a reasonably level headed person. Experience is filtered through desire, if you really want to believe something then everything you experience will confirm it.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:41:27 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:42:54 BDT
Tony...carry on living in your gullible world...believing the words of 'others' about matters that require personal experience...some things require immersion before an opinion has substance.

Posted on 19 May 2013 17:44:53 BDT
Last edited by the author on 19 May 2013 17:46:31 BDT
Swivel Eyed Loons? That sounds very much like the congenital idiot Gordon Brown and his pack of Islam-loving lefties.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:49:51 BDT
John...such a powerful argument....well done.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:49:58 BDT
Do they? I expect you've spent a lot of time immersed Sime, I really do. I bet your 'personal experience' is immersed too, Sime.

They clearly have substance, these beliefs of yours, even though they contradict the whole of the scientific community (oh yes, they would be 'the words of 'others'' wouldn't they). These people are probably 'deleting, distorting and generalising' eh Sime......not you, of course, everyone else.......they have a general name for that too Sime...

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 17:52:33 BDT
Tony...do numbers confer correct thinking...are the majority always right...remember when the scientific community said stress and stomach acid caused gastric ulcers...then they had to change their minds...it is a bacteria...REMEMBER ...just because billions believe something does not make it 'true'...

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 18:28:00 BDT
No. You are right Simon. I apologise. I was wrong to judge when I know so little about it. It is sometimes for the sake of argument, which is a bad habit and I should stop it. But I am at least reasonably sure that it is not for me. Sorry.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 19:00:15 BDT
Last edited by the author on 19 May 2013 19:01:17 BDT
Tony....no need to apologise....although you have my respect.... this is a debating board....all is well!

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 19:24:39 BDT
True. But honesty is more important than winning arguments. Especially honesty to self.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2013 20:34:12 BDT
True Tony....

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 10:48:55 BDT
Pendragon says:
Fount:

You ask us to "explain how a therapy which guarantees results is a fraud?..."

I'm going to guess that the answer is that it "guarantees" results. Therefore it is a fraud.

Am I on the right track?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 11:29:03 BDT
Pendragon...guarantees in the sense of no change, no fee. Do you pay money for things which don't work?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 11:35:39 BDT
Ian says:
Does all your advice come with the same guarantee - no change, no fee?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 11:59:53 BDT
Advice is NOT change work.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 12:34:57 BDT
Who decides whether or not there is a change? Or if the change is desirable?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 12:40:46 BDT
Ian says:
RE: "Advice is NOT change work."

What does that mean?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 13:17:44 BDT
Erm....the client.....

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 13:18:43 BDT
Pendragon says:
Simon - OK. So no actual guarantee of results, then.

"Do you pay money for things which don't work?" Sadly, this has sometimes happened.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2013 13:18:45 BDT
I.N. ....it means what it says....when the fount does 'change work' he offers no advice.
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