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The two questions that drive the unsane capitalist-consumerist machine.


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Initial post: 18 Apr 2012 14:57:07 BDT
1-"Where are you going"? As in CJ...."I didn't get where I am today".....as in statements like "I am 52 and look where I am"..

2-"What am I being"? People need to be something... a celebrity....wealthy.....important etc. Everyone craves to be somebody....

The solution-accept you are nothing and success/wealth etc is all an illusion.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2012 16:34:02 BDT
Simon, Are you 52 now?

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2012 17:37:14 BDT
Gordon....yes....

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2012 20:02:30 BDT
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gille liath says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2012 23:04:24 BDT
Simon, the 'capitalist machine'...where are you referring to? The government runs more than 50% of the economy in this green and pleasant land.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 01:17:00 BDT
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Pipkin says:
Hi Simon,
I cannot for the life of me see why anyone has marked you negative for this statement. Just shows how brainwashed people are.
What you say is so true.
The only thing I would have changed is the last sentence to say, ''Accept that you mean nothing to those you work for; and that success/wealth is the carrot they wave in front of you to make you run faster, but the odds are a trillion to one you will ever catch it.''
It is enough to be cared for and nurtured by our families - that is all we really need........

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 05:25:10 BDT
Gordon..

Tesco, ASDA, Sainsbury, Morrison's
Shell, BP
Glaxo-Smithkline, Roche
Amazon....

On and on...

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 05:31:23 BDT
Thanks MEP...

I think the dumping of the ego by believing I am nothing works best.....however it is always important to "research your own experience".

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 06:16:34 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Do they really? And who runs the Government then??? But what about the people, what do they own, what do they have control over.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 06:18:51 BDT
Molly Brown says:
For someone who doesn't believe in the "self" Simon, you appear, although this may not be true, to have quite an ego, I don't think you really believe you are "nothing".

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 08:34:50 BDT
Molly, we get to choose what to wear everyday.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 08:44:28 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 08:45:03 BDT
Molly Brown says:
But do we, really.......?

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 09:16:43 BDT
I suppose we don't, can I ask, What exactly does freedom of speech even mean in the UK?

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 09:22:26 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Sssh......careless talk costs lives.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 09:31:36 BDT
So what? I could give you a long list of all of the state's operations. The state spends more than half of the GPD. Gross Britannia is not a capitalist state. And those big corporations you list hardly meet the classic definition of capitalist...they are corporate, run by the new management class who take no notice of the shareholders.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 09:33:29 BDT
Popcorn,
If you lived in North Korea you would be able to answer your question.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 09:35:39 BDT
Molly Brown says:
You will be pleased to know that Citibank's shareholders managed, only just, to kick out the new salaries and bonuses for their board. Is this the start of the backlash. Apparently Citibank's board aren't going to take any notice of the vote anyway. People Power? But it's still immoral capitalism, who'd be a shareholder of a bank eh. To get rich these days, you don't need to rob a bank, you just have to own one.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 10:20:51 BDT
Gordon....you seem confused...yes we all know that the UK has a "state"...EVERY nation does...however we also are dominated in our personal lives by the big corporations....banks...big pharma etc...as I pointed out....we are NOT a communist society..yet....

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 10:39:32 BDT
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Molly Brown says:
Are we then all "stateless"? We've all been incorporated globally so we don't know where we live anymore? And nobody is anybody, because there is no self, and there is no such thing as society. Am I getting anywhere near what you, oh mighty Simon of All Wisdom, is trying to get us mere mortals to get through our thick skulls?

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 10:53:08 BDT
Molly....are you okay?....seem a little tense?

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 10:55:24 BDT
Molly Brown says:
I am Simon, waiting for Tesco.com with Red Cross Parcels. Am I a product of Capitalism or what eh!!

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 11:39:17 BDT
Simon,

Yes the big corporations - public and private 'dominate'. Those private corporations are the same as the public corporations, they are not capitalist (they don't meet the criteria) but corporatist and are in large measure self serving. Perfect places for psychopaths to rise to the top.

Me confused, lol.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 11:41:09 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Cream rises to the top, so does scum.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012 11:52:15 BDT
That's a cliche.
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