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Initial post: 6 May 2012 19:07:06 BDT
Spin says:
Cameron is sitting in No.10 crying....=) And the Krauts are gathering forces...

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 05:34:28 BDT
Hurrah....Spinny.....Hurrah!.......now we can see who is closer to the truth!

Posted on 7 May 2012 06:43:03 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 May 2012 06:46:43 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Austerity will not work, Sarkozy talked of keeping France's dignity in his defeat. There is no dignity in poverty. The rich elites seem to have forgotten one thing, they can't dictate and inflict this austerity on us if they actually do believe in democracy. Rich or Poor, we only have one vote each in the end.

Posted on 7 May 2012 07:58:17 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 May 2012 08:08:16 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Vive la République française! Ζήτω η Ελλάδα!

French and Greek elections could spark property boom in London as rich buyers flood to the UK to escape euro crisis
In some areas French buyers are second biggest group after Brits
Estate agents are hiring French-speaking staff to sell property in London

Great if you've got a property, not good if you don't. Think we need to get some rent controls put into place before they descend upon us all.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139537/French-Greek-elections-spark-property-boom-London-rich-buyers-flood-

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 10:53:35 BDT
Simon,

This can all be sorted by doing away with public holidays.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 10:55:02 BDT
Spin,

What will this "new start" be?

Posted on 7 May 2012 11:04:52 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Shouldn't we take a leaf out of France and other European countries book and start holding our elections on a Sunday, perhaps then, bearing in mind this is the apathy spring in Britain, we might, just might get a much higher turnout. France I believe in the first round, was 80%, and 72% yesterday. Imagine that here....

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 11:19:28 BDT
And clash with the Eastenders omnibus edition? You don't expect people to drag themselves away from their tv screens, do you?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 11:54:53 BDT
Radar says:
Hit the nail on the head, Sam Hunter. Over the course of the twentieth century, the electoral franchise in the UK increased but the overall turnout decreased. Although in the 20s and 30s fewer people were entitled to vote, more of those entitled did so. My theory is that endless political coverage in newspapers, radio, TV, internet, et al, has bored voters away from the polling stations.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 11:55:30 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Depends on what happens now in Germany, fragile government really, the left seems to have a current majority, they just need a chance to vote, just like we do here. (A proper election I mean, with parties telling us who they will work with before the vote).

Next Due German General Election Oct 2013

"Chancellor Angela Merkel has been making policy concessions to her ailing coalition partner, the pro-business FDP, in a bid to 'keep it above water,' as one advisor puts it. But the party is bent on confrontation with the conservatives, which it sees as the only way to sharpen its profile and win back voters."

"The pro-business Free Democratic Party is battling extinction after a collapse in voter support that has seen it crash out of regional parliaments in a string of recent state elections. The junior partner to the conservative Christian Democrats of Chancellor Angela Merkel is desperate to sharpen its profile and score points ahead of two elections that are widely expected to determine its fate, in the state of Schleswig-Holstein on May 6 and, more importantly, in North Rhine-Westphalia on May 13."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,825567,00.html
see Polls @
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/bild-825567-335356.html
04/04/2012

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 12:01:58 BDT
I think it more likely that the increase in political coverage has highlighted just how similar all of the politicians are. It also shows how unpleasant they are. There are obviously many factors involved, but when people see that there's little point in voting because it changes nothing, then there's no motivation to come away from the tele.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 12:04:00 BDT
Gordon......what you have written seems like nonsense ......what can be sorted out?....

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 12:15:47 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Do you think that the Green Party who would presumably support Labour can take over much of the Lib Dem vote next election, they need more candidates though. It seems the far right vote, not that it was that great anyway has completely collapsed, Baroness Warsi said they've gone to UKIP, upsetting many, as she usually does. She might actually be right this time though. Surely, then it must be the Conservatives who will lose the most. Lib Dems need to now disown Clegg, but they won't. They seem set on suicide for their party now unless they do.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 17:21:47 BDT
Spin says:
Gordon: Your guess is as good as mine, but we must try other alternatives to try to sort things out. Sticking to the capitalist ideals that created this mess in the first place can do no more but sustain and maintain the lifestyles of the wealthy and powerful.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 17:48:30 BDT
Simon, Oh dear, dear...the loss of business...reduced 'footfall' past your shop...do away with hols and UKeydonkeyland will recover...simples. Howzabout you stand for election on a ban public hols ticket to make our once proud nation proud again?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 17:49:42 BDT
Come on Spin let's hear it, how will it be done?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:04:03 BDT
Spin says:
Gordon: Not even Europes leaders and political commentators know how it will be done. It is not only France that has upset the cart, but Greece as well. There are too many political possibilities, both good and bad, to know what will happen. But one thing is clear; the euro is, if not yet dead, on a life-support machine. The situation depends on Germanys response to calls for a new treaty, on China reforming its currency exchange, on Greece's decision as to its financial situation, on the US economic recovery and, eventually, also on the stability of Russia and the middle east. There are many other economic and political factors involved, but then no-one said international politics and globalisation were easy subjects to master....

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:09:09 BDT
Gordon....why the sarcasm....?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:29:33 BDT
Spin says:
Simon: No doubt Gordons interest in economics extends as far as his wallet...=)

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:36:49 BDT
Spin....Gordon is hoping to receive some instruction from Dogen.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:41:55 BDT
Me sarcastic? Nay, nay thrice nay Simon.

The 'solution' (if you really do want growth, for what purpose? to consume more crap) is for the once hardworking folk of UKeydonkeyland to learn that they need to WORK for a living...the government can't hand them prosperity...so perhaps fewer hols is a good starting point.

Do you want more of the sort of growth that is turning people into fat slobs who seem to expect 'THEM' to sort out paradise on earth for their continued viewing pleasure?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:44:23 BDT
Spin,

How, no doubt, do you come to that conclusion?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:46:08 BDT
Spin, this reads like baloney.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:46:49 BDT
Spin, I'm not guessing...you are.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 18:51:30 BDT
Simon, It seems Spin has nothing to offer but cliches and sound bites he's got off the telly...so Dogen is probably a better bet.
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