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Initial post: 1 May 2012 07:35:47 BDT
but the time was spent gathering violets in the fields of spring.

A message from Ryokan...a pointer towards the local elections perhaps?...or maybe a reflection of modern geo-politics?

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 18:26:14 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
...more likely a bit of zen absurdity from a man who liked a glass or three of rice wine.

Posted on 1 May 2012 18:39:41 BDT
cuppa tea please too mate while you're at it

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 18:45:55 BDT
Maria says:
A large latte for me please.

Posted on 2 May 2012 12:41:54 BDT
Spin says:
Some time ago, as I waited for a bus, I noticed a beggar sitting outside Greggs, wrapped in an old duvet. No-one passed him any heed. Then an old lady came along, said a few words to him, went into Greggs and bought him a pie of some sort and a coffee. He thanked and she walked off, pleased at her good deed. My admiration for her charity,was cut short when, after she left, the "beggar" threw the pie to one side, lit a cigarette and supped the coffee, his expression and behaviour clearly indicating that he was not interested in food. He was not starving, he was not in penury; he simply passed time by getting a few pennies. These "beggars" are no more poverty-stricken than you or I. At the end of the day they go home to a warm meal and popular TV program. You never see beggars on the street in bad weather, do you? Europe is not the far east; there is no need for a person to beg unless they simply desire to pass time by getting a freebie...

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2012 13:11:32 BDT
 says:
'A pie of some sort', that would be Greggs alright!

In reply to an earlier post on 2 May 2012 13:28:57 BDT
Spin says:
A: It was a pre-budget pasty...=)

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 15:26:24 BDT
Luddite Joe says:
Maybe it was a meat pie and the poor beggar was a vegetarian.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 15:29:03 BDT
Spin says:
Luddite: Wht would a vegetarian beg for money outside a shop selling hot and cold meats?

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 15:39:54 BDT
Luddite Joe says:
They sell more than just meat based products.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 15:51:24 BDT
Spin says:
True: But isn't one of the arguments put forward by Veggies that even "non-meat" products contain meat of some sort in their production (eg: Fat)..? (Not that I care...I love fudge donuts..Yum!) =)

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 15:52:35 BDT
Luddite Joe says:
No

Posted on 3 May 2012 16:34:53 BDT
 says:
Greggs claim that their vegetarian products contain no meat derivatives whatsoever.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 16:54:34 BDT
A customer says:
so completely tasteless then ?

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 16:57:24 BDT
Spin says:
Ludd: "No" ? Simple as that? Well, you get the prize for the most succinct and informative reply this forum has ever seen. =)

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 17:02:26 BDT
Spin says:
A; Yes but just because a product "contains" no meat derivatives, does not mean it was not created using such derivatives. Not only that, but how uch of our forests were destroyed to bag the pie, pasty or donut, only to be thrown on the street occupied by vegetarian beggars addicted to caffeine and nicotine?

Posted on 3 May 2012 17:03:59 BDT
Spin says:
A starving person cares not what a food consists of. Vegetarianism is a luxury not afforded to many in this world.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 17:06:00 BDT
 says:
Pretty much, seasicktim. Though 'completely tasteless' as a criterion leaves us in a quandary regarding all Greggs' savoury products...

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 17:10:55 BDT
 says:
The drudge making the product is usually meat-fueled for a start.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2012 17:45:49 BDT
Spin says:
A: I detest Greggs attempt at producing pies and sandwiches. They are nothing but offal. However, I love thier donuts and cakes. =)

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012 21:36:07 BDT
Charlieost says:
Spin says:
A starving person cares not what a food consists of. Vegetarianism is a luxury not afforded to many in this world.

Hi Spin. On the contrary. Meat eating is a luxury to many in this world. There are a large number of the population of this planet who have to get by on a non meat diet.

Posted on 7 May 2012 06:27:37 BDT
Molly Brown says:
Agree with you Charlie, I just do not 'get' Spin's "Vegetarianism is a luxury not afforded to many in this world.", at all!! It's much cheaper by far to be a vegetarian. And much healthier too.

Posted on 7 May 2012 09:04:50 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 May 2012 09:20:26 BDT
I think Spin means it is an affectation to choose to be vegetarian, and I agree. People have various reasons for doing it, and often we are better off for eating less meat, so is this an argument for abstaining because of the suffering of other people in the world rather than because of the suffering of animals? Fair enough either way.

One Bible I look at has the incident of Jesus overturning the tables in the temple as being because they were selling animals for sacrifice, not because they were money-changers (see The Christian Community Bible, Pastoral Edition). In the Qu'ran (I've finally got used to spelling it!) the instruction is to sacrifice animals and for the meat to be offered to the poor, not for animals to be wastefully cremated.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012 17:27:05 BDT
Spin says:
Charlieost: a person on a non-meat diet in an area that lacks proper nourishment is vegetarian by necessity not choice. A majority of western vegetarians are so by choice, not necessity.

Posted on 7 May 2012 17:33:00 BDT
Lack of food will become a major factor in the not so distant future, the next major war will result. Watch this space.
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