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Initial post: 16 May 2012 05:38:31 BDT
ASDA. Sainbury's. McDonalds etc...these are the real benefits cheats...paying just over 6.00 per hour so their employees HAVE to claim benefits....

Isn't it time for a REAL minumum/living wage...say 10.00 per hour?

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 07:33:58 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 10:49:20 BDT
OK if Justin King's pay was divided up amongst the staff they would each have an extra 50p a week.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 10:54:07 BDT
Simon, where does the extra 1 billion a year come from to give all Sainsbury's staff an extra 4 an hour? Howzabout they puts up the prices - that would help the poor.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 10:57:51 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
...and no CEO.

Posted on 18 May 2012 11:12:39 BDT
Due to sound management under the fragrant Justin Sainsbury's has continued to grow and become more profitable...staff are to get another bonus, this year of 60m.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 14:07:36 BDT
Which explains why Simon runs a two bit shop and not Sainsbury's.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 16:02:42 BDT
Molly...maximum wage - 50,000 per annum.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 16:03:19 BDT
Beloved Gordon...slightly unpleasant comment...

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 16:27:35 BDT
...but sooooooooooooooooooooo true Simon.

Anyway, how can truth be unpleasant?

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 16:36:45 BDT
Agree there, no need for more than that, I shall not want!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 16:44:02 BDT
Beloved Gordon...a semantic slip.....there are seven billion "truths" on planet Earth...including yours!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 16:51:09 BDT
Not at all Simon, I was referring to my 'truth'...which I consider a lot less deluded than yours.

BTW, I'm still laughing at your "slightly unpleasant comment"...silly man.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 16:55:39 BDT
Beloved Gordon.....The Fount is always pleased to be a mirth giver.....I delight in providing you with joy....

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 17:06:38 BDT
There, you see, you DO have a purpose.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 19:33:21 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 May 2012 19:34:19 BDT
TomC says:
More like 33 actually Gordon - but that isn't the point. You're evading the topic, which is that companies like Sainsburys are operating a profitable business by taking advantage of an undeclared subsidy from the taxpayer; you, me and every other taxpayer is being made an unwilling benefactor of Sainsbury's and other low-pay companies. Does that sound reasonable to you?

Personally I think that supermarkets should actually live up to all that rhetoric they give us about operating in a difficult economic climate by running their business in a way which is financially viable. If they could do that, perhaps the CEO's would deserve a decent bonus - rather than an obscene one, which is currently the case.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 20:11:43 BDT
"More like 33 a year actually Gordon"? Show me your sums Tom.

And while you're at it, what are Sainsbury's profits as a percentage of turnover? What do you say would be reasonable profits?

Sainsbury's staff could work for more dosh at Aldi or Lidl...but they would have to work a lot harder.

Sainsbury's customers could shop there too and pay 20% less but they choose not to.

How many of Sainsbury's staff are on the minimum wage? Any idea?

If the minimum wage is keeping wages down below the market wage then it should be removed.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 20:18:54 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 May 2012 20:21:26 BDT
TomC says:
"We rely on the 150,000 colleagues working in our stores, offices and depots to provide great service for our customers every single day."

http://www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/our-values/

His bonus is 5 million. You do the long division, Gordon.

Your evasion of my question is noted, so I'll ask it again.

You, me and every other taxpayer is being made an unwilling benefactor of Sainsbury's and other low-pay companies. Does that sound reasonable to you? A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 20:54:57 BDT
Mr B Tonks says:
I doubt if the minumum wage is keeping wages below the market wage,
more a case of wages bottoming out at 6.08 which stops unscrupolous employers paying less,
Sainsbury's is actually more of a decent employer than the likes of Asda,
I have worked as a HGV driver for both and the wages and culture are far superior at Sainsbury's,
granted the shop staff may not be on huge wages, but there was a more relaxed feeling at the Sainsbury's stores I delivered to, whereas Asda staff were always at loggerheads with the management including the Asda depot where I was based,

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 21:01:13 BDT
Tom, Oh you do mean 33 a year then and not 33 a week...that's going to go along way.

Who is on 'low-pay' at Sainsbury's? Teenagers and new staff.

I don't think the government should be trying to fix wages Tom, because it causes a ****up.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 21:03:22 BDT
Ooooohhhhhhhhh............

Beloved Gordon on the ropes.....crisp jabs from Tom C....nice left hooks.....smoking.....!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 21:11:38 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 May 2012 21:47:15 BDT
TomC says:
Yes, my mistake, although you still understate it. 50p/week = 26 p.a.

So how do you feel about government* subsidising business owners who trouser 5 million a year, Gordon?

Yes or No?

Still no answer?

* edit: "government" meaning us, of course. As we know, there is no such thing as "government" money.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 21:17:58 BDT
More good left and right jabs from Tom C.....nice!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 21:49:52 BDT
Don't be silly.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 21:51:02 BDT
Beloved....G......come on.....you can do it......answer Tom's question...
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