Is the US provoking a war with Iran/

Now that it has screwed up Iraq and Afghanistan, is the great god of democratic freedom focussing its attention on Iran? (Nothing to do with demands of Saudi Arabia, of course)

Hi Spin. I believe it is the the usual brinksmanship but could lead to confrontation as the US moved a fleet into the area some months ago in preparation. I would think it highly unlikely that US troops would be used on the ground after the debacle of Iraq and Afghanistan but if Iran does as threatened, block off the Straits of Homuz then there will be blood. More blood for oil.

I wonder when I put euro20 in my tank, what proportion metaphorically of blood it contains. Interesting question but at a rough estimate I would say, far to much. And lots more to come.

If O' Bama is going to lose the election .... wait for it!

Who's provoking whom, exactly?

Is a dimwitted pinhead making absurd assertions to provoke an argument on the politics forum?

Onom

Is that Spin you are describing as "a dimwitted pinhead"?

I say, that's a bit harsh isn't it? Or are you trying to provoke an argument?

Just you wait till Spin sees what you wrote.

Yes, they are. So what will Iran do? Not much they can do, but they do have a Nuclear deterrent, and now we can see why. They can't use it, but it is there. It reminds me of Japan and the US which resulted in Pearl Harbour. The only difference being that Japan was guilty of aggression, and wanted war. You cannot blame Iran for having a nuclear weapon, under the circumstances, the same circumstances that Israel sees itself in.

I don't support the regime in Iran, but you can understand why they are doing what they have done. They have no choice. They also have no support, and stand alone in the world. North Korea is in the same position, except for the fact that they have allies. Obama and the US hawks are now moving in on that region, so who is the aggressor and who is the victim in all of this?

God help us, if Rick Sanitorium, Mitt Romney or their ilk actually win the forthcoming general election.

I don't support the regime in Iran, but you can understand why they are doing what they have done. They have no choice. They also have no support, and stand alone in the world. North Korea is in the same position, except for the fact that they have allies.

LOL

What is the point of repeating what I have already posted, LOL! What do you think r and r? Or don't you want to think about it?

i was laughing at what you had written . the point of repeating it with LOL at the end was an attempt at making you read again what you had written to see if you could see how you contradicted yourself in that statement?

You tell me?

for goodness sake molly ,you are an intelligent woman......can't you see it?

look, you said iran has no support and stand alone.
you said n korea is in the same position but has allies.

if you have allies ,you do not stand alone and you have support. therefore it is a contradiction in saying that they are in the same position

Pedantic, but points taken. The same position being that China woud not want NK to use their nuclear weapons, so in a way they do stand alone. Iran does have allies, but not if it blocks the straits of Hormuz.

i think you need to make your mind up regards who does and doesn't have allies . and be a lot clearer in your writing.

i'm not being pedantic by pointing out where you have made glaring inconsistensies in your statement

anyway i have made my point ........roll on the discussion ;)

Agreed, in some part, yes, let us have a REAL discussion, and hopefully others will put forward their arguments regarding a very real and serious future we may have to look forward to. It is not just the US, Europe, Nato, involved in encouraging the embargo's. As regards Iran, it could be a case of "a cornered rat will attack"?

Mmmm election year coming up in the States, wars win votes- after Iraq and Afghanistan not sure, so I guess its down to how the politicos spin it.......or is that too cynical for you.
S.R.J

well my take on the situation is this......

i think iran is doing the sabre rattling here and they are threatening to block the strait and restrict the flow of oil. now we dont buy oil from iran because of the sanctions imposed against them .......for good reason. under normal terms iran developing nuclear missiles may not be a problem but having threatened to wipe israel off the map ,it becomes a different matter altogether. under these conditions the world has every right to impose sanctions upon them.
therefore if iran , and they are , threaten to block international waters which don't belong to them then countries such as us and the usa have every right to put military force in the area to make sure the oil flows.
america really doesn't want to be there . they have just announced a trillion dollar cut in there military expenditure over the next 10 years. the last thing they need to be involved in is another overseas conflict. but if iran continues in this way then they will reap what they sow.
israel will not stand by until they have developed missiles . they will strike first to disable their nuclear programme . in fact scientists have already been assasinated and you can bet your bottom dollar that mossad was behind it.

Ono: Your tag is appropriate: The forming of a word imitating the thing meant. In this case intelligence.