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Initial post: 6 Jun 2012 22:12:23 BDT
Shouldn't the British National Party be given a voice in the media - especially the TV? I would like to know what they say they stand for - let them speak for themselves.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jun 2012 22:21:12 BDT
Look on their website.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jun 2012 23:06:06 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jun 2012 13:47:18 BDT
TomC says:
Well, why not?

Here's Nick Griffin explaining to American Ku Klux Klan members his strategy to make the BNP more acceptable to British voters, so that they can achieve control over the media - the object being to get British people to agree that "every last one must go".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XK2PbQaTdA

And here he is attempting to deny it on Question Time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLGrn1kl7A

But not to worry; Nick explained at one point that these were the "non-violent" KKK, so they are absolutely nothing to do with the nasty ones that go around beating up black people. They're decent lads who only joined for the nice white uniform, the sing-songs, the healthy outdoor activities and those pretty firework displays.

And here's Nick explaining how when Tony Lecomber was carrying a bomb in his car which blew up when he was on his way to deliver it, he was just a silly lad having a bit of good clean fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIwsr2anMi4

Posted on 6 Jun 2012 23:31:38 BDT
Thanks Tom: I'm well behind the times here. I also checked the youtube clip from The Cook Report, 1997, which is pretty conclusive regarding Griffin's racism.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2012 10:05:09 BDT
Griffin's a lowlife hypocrite, same as most politicians to be fair, only he decides that bullying ethnic minorities as opposed to taxpayers as a whole will get him more support within the working class by misleading them to think ethnic minorities are crippling our economy, not corporate tax evasion or obesity.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2012 20:36:00 BDT
Spin says:
DPR: If the TV media bans Sascha Baron Cohen, what makes you think they will allow genuine racist thugs a voice? =)

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 20:39:23 BDT
Yes I agree - a voice for the BNP : could I suggest Daffy Duck on helium ? that would suit the message

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 21:22:45 BDT
Spin says:
The BNP is not Nick Griffin. It is an English movement representing and consisting of uneducated, bitter and violent thugs; a group of "people" found in every modern society. Look what happened the last time a nation "listened" to Nazis...

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 10:41:42 BDT
easytiger says:
The BNP members I personally know are decently educated, articulate and hold strong beliefs, one of the main ones being their right to express themselves without fear of violence or imprisonment. The only thugs I've ever encountered whilst in their company have been rabid lefties intent on smashing everyone and everything in sight.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 12:08:04 BDT
The one thing that you're guaranteed is the presence of thugs in the BNP.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 13:41:16 BDT
I used to hold the belief that all BNP members and supporters are just inarticualte football hooligans until I saw BNP wives programme and a few other BNP related programmes on TV and was genuinely surprised at how intelligent some of them come across, but how intelligent can you really be in this society, when you have so much knowledge around you to know that people are all the same and still discriminate against other ethnic groups.

Its easy to have sympathy and support for the BNP if you are white and feeling marginalised when thats what they target people for but a little extra work into their practices and policies reveals them to be nothing but racists and crooks

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 14:55:27 BDT
easytiger says:
How exactly do you know this?

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 15:10:11 BDT
doctor_jeep says:
It would seem useful for the general public to be aware of what the BNPs policies actually are, rather than what the media say their policies are ... and then compare said declarations to what they actually do, and to campaign literature and what have you.

Seriously, if the 'mainstream media' think that these people are so transparently wrong, why try to silence them?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 15:16:58 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jun 2012 15:19:12 BDT
Because no-one wants race hate and that is what the BNP is known for especially in run down areas. Immigrants are easy to use as scapegoats.

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 15:25:37 BDT
easytiger says:
Agreed. However you can turn race hate around.The BNP see the now-failed multicultural experiment as race hatred and even genocide against the the white British due mass immigration and the continuous denigration of everything this previously white christian nation has ever achieved. They ask if anyone was ever asked if they wanted to part of an experiment?

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 15:27:05 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jun 2012 15:28:22 BDT
Too easy to point at the foriegner and say, how do you get the same dole money as me? How do they get that house?
Because they are humans like you perhaps??
Humans are as thick as pig ..... at times, you actually think this is YOUR country, worse again, you think this is YOUR planet ----- You are MISTAKEN!!!
Try telling a tsunami you won't give up your home. Try telling a comet you don't want ethnic minorities living near you, see what they have to say.

EFFING MORONS! GET A GRIP!
(not aimed at you easy son, I'm coming to help you find jamoonkis soon!)

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 15:33:13 BDT
doctor_jeep says:
Surely if "no-one wants race hate" and the BNP is accurately "known for" it, then exposing them to the public eye will cause them to wither up and die.
If, on the other hand they are unfairly accused of "race hate" or "race hate" turns out to mean questioning the behaviour of large, unassimilated and hostile immigrant communities or the treatment of the indigenous poor as resident aliens in their own country then what?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 15:40:36 BDT
Fair enough, but black man white woman fall for each other --- I personally don't call that an experiment, its just life and people need to deal with it, not asking you to go and marry someone with different coloured skin personally, but I don't see why its seen as such a bad thing in the eyes of a racist.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 15:47:17 BDT
"If, on the other hand they are unfairly accused of "race hate" or "race hate" turns out to mean questioning the behaviour of large, unassimilated and hostile immigrant communities or the treatment of the indigenous poor as resident aliens in their own country then what?" - Then they need to do some serious campaigning to change the public's perspective of them. Where I live, I often see BNP written on walls and public transport and its always accompanied by a Nazi swastica - that is what people think they are, Nazis. If they were ever to come out and say 'actually, we don't want to ethnically clense the nation, we just want to restrict admission to immigrants and try to sort out other countries problems' they would lose their followers pretty quickly. Do you not think?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 15:53:21 BDT
easytiger says:
Too easy to point at the foreigner and say, how do you get the same dole money as me? How do they get that house?
Well yeh, that's exactly how a lot of the ignored white working class see things but noone except the BNP asks them do they? To them, and it's you that used the word, they are foreigners. That's why the piper's tune was changed from a multi-racial society to a multi-ethnic society and then finally to a multi-cultural society which was 'newspeak' for a failed uncontrolled immigration policy which has turned our towns and cities into cultural ghettoes where even second generation offspring cannot master english.

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 16:00:57 BDT
easytiger says:
Unfortunately one of the symptoms of our present society is that to be pro something you also have to be anti something. Therefore if you are pro the the preservation of white british culture(for want of a better word) then you must be zenophobic and rascist. Does that make a Native American or a Maori such things?

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 16:01:54 BDT
Don't get me wrong easy, its not all good, not by a long shot. But this is planet Earth and we humans have been evolving and adapting for thousands of years. Multiculturalism is just another phase of adaption, we humans naturally fear change, multiculturism is a change.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 16:21:46 BDT
doctor_jeep says:
Quite possibly ... is that more or less of an argument for denying them media access?

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 16:22:03 BDT
easytiger says:
No race or nation in the history of mankind has invited uncontrolled immigration at the expense of the indigenous population. It took centuries for Britain to arrive where it was-a mixture of Britons, Angles, Saxons, Celts etc. 60 yrs of uncontrolled immigration by people of totally different cultures, unasked for, and now at one end we have to look over our shoulder and whisper "Can I still say that?" and at the other we have places in our big cities ruled by gun-toting black people, where it's too dangerous to go if you are white. That's why the BNP get support from ordinary people because no one else gives a monkey's and they get slated as nazis.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 16:27:16 BDT
easytiger says:
Quite frankly the BNP will never get true media access as they hit too many raw nerves; not allowed in these PC(newspeak) times.
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