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Initial post: 31 Oct 2012 11:08:45 GMT
R. Thomas says:
I am very interested in purchasing the Epson Stylus R 2000,reason being I have and still have good service from my E S Photo Rx 700, A4 approx 5 years old of which I will still use but now I would like to print in A3 for some special photo's for Competitions in my camera club. I have read reveives on Amazon but would welcome a more broader veiw

Posted on 20 Nov 2012 10:19:34 GMT
S. Grason says:
There's not a lot of difference in quality between the major manufacturers these days, printers have not really progressed very much in the last 10 years or so, I know they keep adding more inks and making the droplet size smaller etc but the end result doesn't look any different to the prints from 10 years ago! Anyway, my only advice would be that if you are going to use it a lot it would be worth considering a printer that you can get a continuous ink flow system for (like the Permajet Permaflow kits for example), this will reduce your printing costs significantly. DON'T buy refillable or 3rd party ink cartridges, either the print quality will be crap or you'll clog up the print heads (I've seen plenty over the years). AFAIK Epson printers are the only ones you can get continuous flow kits for, but if you're not interested in that then Epson, Canon and HP are all great, pick the one that fits on your desk and has the cheapest inks, none will disappoint!

Also worth noting that some printers use DYE inks and some printers use PIGMENT inks, there is quite a difference in the finished print so it would be worth going to see some example prints before you buy. Personally I prefer dye inks as they tend to be punchier, whereas pigment inks tend to be flatter but have slightly better mid-tones. Usually pigment inks are found on the more expensive printers but I've even had customers downgrade to the cheaper model because they didn't like the prints from the expensive one!

Posted on 21 Nov 2012 11:10:03 GMT
I have used 3rd party inks very successfully on my Canon A4 printer - but those are cheap to replace compared to a decent A3 item.

Posted on 22 Nov 2012 08:32:27 GMT
Lucius says:
I've been looking at getting an A3 printer for a while now, but my local print shop does high quality pro A3 prints for around £5 - that's about 80 prints (excluding excessive ink costs) just for the price of the printer. Given photos are generally 100% coverage you'll be zipping through those cartridges pretty quickly! I think the ink costs for an A3 print are about £1.50 on the Epson R2000 from what I read. I just don't print A3 enough to justify buying and maintaining one when I get get the odd print run off so cheaply locally. Might be worth considering instead, although I realise there is a certain convenience of having a printer next to your computer!

Posted on 22 Nov 2012 09:07:32 GMT
Unless you intend printing a shed load of A3 pictures, it seems to me that the best option is to use a lab for your printing needs. Something like Photobox (there are others of course) have a 24 hour turnaround, and for less that £10 you get fantastic results.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Nov 2012 10:57:46 GMT
R. Thomas says:
Thank you for the info I did concider the continuous ink flow system,but my intention would be to use the A3 Printer only for my competition prints,
Many Thanks
R Thomas

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Nov 2012 10:59:25 GMT
R. Thomas says:
Thank You
R Thomas

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Nov 2012 11:00:28 GMT
R. Thomas says:
Many Thanks
R Thomas

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Nov 2012 11:02:19 GMT
R. Thomas says:
I enjoy using a Printer so no photo lab for me.
Thank you
R Thomas

Posted on 23 Nov 2012 02:11:35 GMT
Steve B says:
R. Thomas

I think that you could be making a big mistake if you are thinking of getting an Epson Stylus R 2000 and only using it for A3 size prints for some special photographs for camera club competitions.

Because it uses pigment inks you should use this printer frequently to avoid the print heads clogging. However, you may find that after printing some larger sized photographs you will decide that you want to print more than you originally envisaged.

You may wish to consider purchasing a Canon Pixma Pro 9000 Mk2, which uses dye inks, and, because it is probably to be superseded by the Pixma Pro-100, can be purchased much cheaper than the Epson Stylus R 2000. Having used a Canon Pixma Pro 9000 for several years I think that dye printers are more reliable that pigment ink printers when not used frequently. Dye ink printers are usually best when used with gloss and satin papers and pigment ink printers are usually best with satin and matt papers.

To save money think about buying paper in bulk from the likes of Harman and Permajet. I have used third party inks and, apart from finding that there is sometimes a little loose ink in the container when the printer says that it is empty I have not had any problems. I keep my prints safe in A3 size plastic containers.

If you are desperate to buy an Epson printer I think that the Stylus R 3000 would be a better bet using Harman's CRYSTALJET papers or Permajet's Oyster paper. You should be able to see Epson demonstrating their printers at Permajet's office in Stratford-upon-Avon on 1st December and/or the SWPP show in London in January 2013.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2012 15:32:34 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Nov 2012 15:34:00 GMT
R. Thomas says:
Hi Steve
Many thanks for your info,sorry I did mislead you a bit I will be using R2000 for general use but at the Camera club the Judges seem to go for the A3 Prints more,
As regards what you did suggest the Pixma Pro 9000 MK2, the revieves on Canon Pixma 9000 range say
they do use a lot of ink,and very costly to buy.
I was told besides this at a Store selling both Canon and Epson Printers that Canon come back more for things going wrong and Epson dont,
Like everything you buy today you can be unlucky,
I will stick with R2000 for now but I agree what you said about using pigment I would have preffered Dye ink.
Many Thanks
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