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Initial post: 6 Feb 2012 23:12:10 GMT
Anne says:
The right Compact System Camera before I invest fully in a DSLR.... that is my dilemma!

little background: I'm a producer, 3D artist and currently work as a producer. I'm around cameras nearly everyday and know my way around a DSLR to a semi-decent level. I'm looking to invest in a really good Compact system Camera not a DSLR yet, because I'm always on the go and don't want something that bulky just yet. Also, I'm planning on buying one with my brother (who does photography as a side career whilst studying his masters)

I don't want a Sony. Call it personal vendetta... I work with them too much and right now, I'm sick of them. I'm liking the Olympus E-PL3 and the Panasonic G3 and GH2. I know the GH2 isn't compact as such but I've heard it has good film shooting capabilities (except is doesn't shoot at 25fps... or something).

I'm really into Macro photography... and I just want a CSC which will allow me learn more about DSLR like functionality as i will eventually buy one.

Can anyone give me some good, advice... suggestions. have you used any CSCs you felt were worth the money.

Help me... someone... anyone!!!

Thanks :)

Posted on 7 Feb 2012 00:00:37 GMT
X says:
Anne: Unless you know you will buy more than one lens with your CSC why not buy an Advanced Compact? Cheaper than a CSC, even more compact, excellent lenses with better apertures than on comparable CSC lenses, etc., etc. Sticking to the brands you cite: Olympus make the XZ-1, which I have and absolutely love, Panasonic make the LX5 to which I preferred the Olympus XZ-1 to squeeze in the most available light. The Fujifilm X10 is a cracker, but very expensive; you make your choice and you pay for it, as always...Canon, Nikon and Samsung have similar products. Get your hands on the Olympus and the Panasonic to see how they feel for you.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Feb 2012 00:04:52 GMT
Hi Anne,
I don't mean to be facetious but if you don't want Sony isn't it down to a choice between Pana and Oly? Can the Nikon V1 really be said to be a system as yet? Ditto Samsung and Ricoh or the Pentax Q with it's small sensor? I wasn't aware of any macro lenses for Nikon, Pentax, Samsung and Ricoh - but you may know better.
Pana and Oly use same lens mount and same size sensor so its a matter of features and menus surely? There are quite a few lenses, mainly expensive - or you can use old glass via an adapter. Trouble with that is the old glass will be bulky if it is ex 35mm. Come to that all evils are quite bulky if you put a typical zoom lens on.
Do you want high spec video? EVF? and so on. Pana do a macro lens for £500, Oly for £150. I have no idea how good they are but I guess either will fit any Pana/Oly evil camera?.
By this process you can narrow the list of possibles and then just go and try those on the short list.
I hope some evil owners will step up to the plate and give you the benefit of their thoughts.

Posted on 7 Feb 2012 01:59:15 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Feb 2012 05:02:23 GMT
Graham H says:
'Bain't no good lookin' at me master Graham. I'm saving my spare pennies for a Nikon F5. All 2Kgs of it - plus the eight AA batteries that go in it. :-D

But: To Anne, I would say... If your longer-term plan is to get a DSLR anyway then just get one now. Modern DSLR's don't have to be bulky. By your own admission you're going to buy one sooner or later, and you will lose a massive chunk of any money you spend now on "Halfway House" kits like the ones you're looking at.

The thing to remember with digital camera systems is that they depreciate like crazy. Look at the Nikon D1. Four Grand on introduction, now £130 with a following wind. If you're lucky.
At least if you're already into SLR territory then you can spend your money where it matters -on lenses. Which will work fine for decades to come, even if you will inevitably lose money on the body come resale time.

Just Google "Nikon Pronea" or "APS" if you want evidence of expensive new systems which were being touted as "The Future" on release but which are now worthless a few years down the line.

I'd go with X's thoughts. If you really, really don't want a DSLR just yet then get a good advanced compact. That way you can keep it as a travel / holiday camera when you eventually get the DSLR. And even if you don't want to and you sell it again you'll have lost an awful lot less cash than doing the same with some "System" compact.

What does your brother say?
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