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Could the EM-5 save Olympus?


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Initial post: 12 Feb 2012 19:53:48 GMT
Last edited by the author on 12 Feb 2012 20:16:35 GMT
X says:
I'm an Olympus nut, with total belief and trust in their ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory... Some wise folk don't share my very mixed feelings. These people are very rational, even if their posters are no better than some of us, (cough, cough!):

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40554003

What do you think?

Here's what this guy thinks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG6RraONBzs&feature=related

Anyone who can make an interesting presentation of a digital camera that has no battery deserves respect.

Posted on 15 Feb 2012 14:26:27 GMT
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Posted on 15 Feb 2012 22:14:26 GMT
X says:
Peterfacts: Piling on the pixels without re-working the rest of the electronics would be foolish. Olympus will have an uphill job pointing out the E-M5's superiority over digital Pen models. The technical advances made by Olympus are one thing, Olympus selling them is another.

The price seems to be set to attract the people who always want to be first with a new gadget. I want to see the prices in a year. Not that I think it is not a fair price for a camera with a serious spec; if I had the money lying around I could be tempted.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Feb 2012 22:02:04 GMT
In times of recession it's often a strategy to go up market. The recent Fuji cameras and forthcoming X1 Pro are examples of that as well I think. This "pro" Olympus doesn't seem to be either a Leaicalike or a "pro" compact. as Peterfacts say, the Panasonic GX1 would get my vote in this arena.

Posted on 16 Feb 2012 23:04:13 GMT
X says:
John: Up-market indeed! It's specified way up beyond any existing MTF bodies, from either manufacturer, and it's more obvious where the money has gone than with Fuji's X100. When times are financially straitened the last things people stop buying are the totally indispensable and the totally dispensable, each person according to their income.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Feb 2012 15:07:49 GMT
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Posted on 17 Feb 2012 18:14:08 GMT
X says:
Peterfacts: The specs I have read, the definitions of the "chassis" and the IS, as examples, all bundled together are in advance of other CSCs. In this part of the world there are not many CSC fans, so I shall have to get round a few stores and get my filthy mitts on a few of the latest models, but, on paper, the new Olympus EVF, developed from the one I have added to my XZ-1, is very, very tasty. I am no fan at all of a race to the highest pixel count. Size doesn't matter, what you do with it does. More when I get my hands on one; I get invited to launches and presentations so the store can say they cater for disabled customers. (I suppose, since I wouldn't qualify for my charm nor my looks. I just get the invites and give praise for small mercies...)

Posted on 19 Feb 2012 21:59:35 GMT
Lucius says:
I've pre-ordered one! Lovely classic silver :) Love the Oly stuff and this camera looks fantastic from every point of view. A perfect first camera alongside an E-P2 or E-P3 as a backup. Comparing it to the GX1 is a bit odd as they aren't really the same type of camera. The GX1 doesn't have a built in EVF which is a major difference, and I think the GX1 add-on EVF is about £230, which makes your £599 into £829 to get a similar spec, which isn't a million miles away. It also has in-body IS, which generally means cheaper lenses, and the fact that *any* lens you put on it will benefit from IS! New cameras will always have a premium to start with, especially one with this type retro design, but it will drop as soon as mass availability arrives. It'll probably settle around the £800/850 mark once it gets going I reckon.

Peterfacts - the NEX-7 24Mpx isn't great because it has 24Mpx - the NEX-5N 16Mpx sensor produces much better results (sharper and less noise) than the NEX-7 with the same lenses. I suspect pixel density of the OM-D is probably about the same as the NEX-7, so would expect similar results from the two, but with one big advantage to Olympus in that M43 has a lot more decent lenses available, which makes as much (if not more) difference to image quality than the camera it is attached to. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big NEX fan too - not knocking that system at all!

Posted on 20 Feb 2012 08:39:59 GMT
X says:
Lucius: Well done! There is such a mass of apparently minor advances that it must be a very "new" experience to an experienced photo-nut. Please flood this thread with comments!

Posted on 29 Feb 2012 17:57:52 GMT
X says:
Hmmm, very interesting:

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-om-d-e-m5-hands-on-review-18549

Posted on 7 Mar 2012 15:32:21 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Mar 2012 15:34:03 GMT
X says:
Merry madness: Olympus dealers are taking advance orders for EM-5 "naked" or bundled, for a deposit, and already some are complaining that they will need more than Olympus are allowing. I've verified the advance order/deposit part with srs and my-local store-who-doesn't-like-me. The bit about moaning is unverifiable but would not be a surprise.

There are some variations on the bundle. Apparently Olympus support the body+battery pack as the basic bundle. I enquired about not buying the battery pack from a dealer who was only offering the body+battery pack bundle and could only get a £100 credit for not taking the bundle. Seeing the prices offered for bundles with lenses that actually makes sense. I normally avoid being one of the first buyers, because the first buyers can be the first to send their camera back for a tweak here and there, and because launch prices are always bound to deflate with time, but my mobility is slipping away and I might go for glory to get enough time using the camera.

With reference to launch price deflating with time, Fujifilm launched the FinePix X100 at £1000, so the same as the body only price for the Olympus EM-5 launch, and take a look now:

Fujifilm FinePix X100 Digital Camera - (12.3MP, APS-C CMOS EXR) 2.8 inch LCD

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Mar 2012 16:48:03 GMT
Strewth!

Posted on 7 Mar 2012 21:24:06 GMT
X says:
Hi Doc! For the first time ever, leaving an Olympus retailer with a new Olympus in the bag might require following the "good-bye handshake" with a quick count of your fingers.

Olympus are beyond cure. The EM-5 is raking in the plaudits States-side, and I fear that, drunk with euphoria, Olympus will manage to get the marketing and the logistics wrong. Greed? Maybe they don't know how to handle success; they haven't succeeded a big step upwards since...

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 18:42:48 BDT
X says:
Now I have mine in hand, well, yes, any company other than Olympus could make its future secure for decades with the OM-D on sale and, I suppose, reduced versions extracted from the OM-D's very high spec to come.

(That 12-50mm lens is pretty good, with tweaks like manual zoom and macro which makes sense to use, but I have to turn in the infamous grip in part-exchange for that 45mm prime...)

Posted on 25 May 2012 00:18:02 BDT
X says:
OM-D update. It is one heck of a camera. I know I paid over the odds, and could have saved enormously waiting for the launch price to suffer natural deflation, or, even better, if I had waited a couple of years for a simpler model, without the air-tight magnesium body for a start. But every time I release the shutter, meta-something-ally speaking, then check what I have captured, all thoughts of patience and economy are vanquished by the conviction that I have done the right thing. I was expecting IQ to be average, but it's actually far better than that. And so on at every feature. Nothing to add, nothing to take away.

"That's what it's all about. Hoy!"

In reply to an earlier post on 25 May 2012 22:38:12 BDT
Frank Gadd says:
If you have not tried it then don't knock it. Olympus lenses are some of the best out there. It is the LENS not the camera. As for the MP count - is that the most important thing to you ?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2012 12:30:28 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 May 2012 12:44:07 BDT
X says:
Frank: Could you tell me where I have criticised the lenses or the pixel count? My only negative with Olympus cameras of the type which could suit the way I try to do my photography is the Olympus skill for shooting themselves in the foot. When they are good they are very, very good; when they are bad they are horrid. As for their corporate shenanigans making the company a figure of fun: putting it mildly that does not help the brand.

Continuously, apart from a couple of weeks here and there waiting for Olympus to supply the dealer, as per above, since 1977 I have always had one Olympus camera or more in my kit cupboard; front and centre with a 50mm or a short zoom fitted for a quick grab and go.

I don't need any lessons about the quality of Olympus lenses for slr, DSLR or CSC. Not from anyone. Of course, I am always interested in new specifications and so on.

Read my posts here and elsewhere and you will see I am no fan of pixels for their own sake.

Now I have to go and explore my OM-D and the countryside around here. The sorting out of the features I will use a lot continues. The ergonomics are different but must be good for an oldie like me to get used to them. Just right.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2012 12:46:14 BDT
Hi Ed, I think that Frank was responding to Peterfacts who posted over 3 months ago and never returned - but he didn't make it very obvious. You get random comments like that now and again. P's post has been superseeded many times by your enthusiastic endorsments of the brand.

Posted on 26 May 2012 12:55:46 BDT
X says:
Hi Doc! I gathered that might be the case, but felt too lazy to explore it. With all the brand awareness going on for Nikon I thought a little balance needed to be established. If only a Sony enthusiast could join in...

Posted on 26 May 2012 16:16:00 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 May 2012 16:16:21 BDT
Graham H says:
I'll second that. One thumbs-up for Olympus from me! :-)

Posted on 26 May 2012 19:26:03 BDT
X says:
Graham H: You are an inspiring exception on the web. You have definite, reasoned preferences yet you remain capable of adopting a balanced position come what may. Thank you.

Posted on 26 May 2012 21:12:27 BDT
Last edited by the author on 27 May 2012 05:37:31 BDT
Graham H says:
Ah, thank you Ed! That's very kind of you. :-)

I have a great respect for Olympus, especially their engineers. They've made some wonderful equipment over the years. I just wish that they'd find themselves a management team that are as competent in the sales field as the engineers are in the design and execution.

Posted on 27 May 2012 07:14:26 BDT
ChrisJ says:
Re:>> Continuously, apart from a couple of weeks here and there waiting for Olympus to supply the dealer, as per above, since 1977 I have always had one Olympus camera or more in my kit cupboard; front and centre with a 50mm

I couldn't agree more. Since buying an OM-1 with my first student grant (who needs food when you have a camera like that!) I have always had an Olympus of one sort or another (Tough to DSLR to ultra zoom) somewhere handy.

Posted on 31 May 2012 08:44:18 BDT
Just a thought, but has anyone been following the Olympus management fraud/cover up story in the financial pages?

Olympus may not even be here by Christmas... I'd hold on to your pocket money for a bit, or get a Nikon / Canon alternative - or wait to see if Olympus do actually go bust - at which point prices will be doing the same as they did for those classy Rover cars a few years back ;-)
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