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Scott Walker - anybody understand this guys stuff....enough to hazard an explanation ?


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Initial post: 7 Nov 2012 18:37:13 GMT
30 Century Man

Posted on 7 Nov 2012 20:42:44 GMT
Sparky says:
Too scared to even try!!

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 21:54:21 GMT
Gordon D says:
Got a carful of Scott Walker at the moment: I've been listening to him on the way home from work. Dark, sombre and/or indecent songs presented in a suave cabaret style (sixties/seventies), or against a jarring or subsonic backdrop (nineties/2000s), with a surprisingly near-mainstream offering in the eighties (Climate of Hunter).

As I read it, 30 Cenury Man is simply about cryogenic preservation. Not that there's much you can say in a 90-second song.

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 12:21:50 GMT
Gordon D says:
I played Scott 2 on the way to work this morning. The Amorous Humphrey Plugg gets better each time I hear it, and The Bridge is still my favourite song by anyone, ever.

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 13:17:23 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Nov 2012 13:23:51 GMT
Johnny Bee says:
what's not to understand about the Walker Bros? ;-)

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 14:24:37 GMT
he takes a bit of getting use to - how he has changed from romantic crooning with the Walker brothers to the weird donald duck impression that scares the be-jabbers out of me at the end of The Escape. is quite impressive...he grows on you I think...The Escape

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 14:59:32 GMT
I never realised how many solo albums there were until I looked on Wiki - I thought from c. 1970 until the Walker Bros reunion he was silent but it seems he released a series of albums that he has since disowned. I've only got a comp of his Brel covers that featured on the first three albums but have heard some of Tilt and bits of other later stuff and I was surprised how impenetrable and sparse it seemed to be - it reminded me how Bryan Ferry/Roxy Music may have turned out had he gone completely off his onion and even more arty instead of deciding to specialise in wine bar background music - you could say Scott's come a long way since his reluctant pin-up years and I really should give his later output a belated fair chance someday.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 15:21:48 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Nov 2012 15:22:31 GMT
Gordon D says:
Have you heard Archangel, JB? Or The Electrician?

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 15:22:20 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Nov 2012 15:24:32 GMT
I'm just scratching at the slightly scary surface - triggered by the review of his imminent new album in mojo - worth a look for the Hieronymus Bosch style picture with the review..Bish Bosch

walker brothers had strange moments too - thanks for the Archangel tip Mr Dent... like this one too After The Lights Go Out

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 15:25:33 GMT
wow !! The Electrician !! never know they went places as weird as that either...thanks Mr Dent again.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 15:28:07 GMT
Gordon D says:
I still haven't got round to buying The Drift, as Tilt is still a bit much for me. It might be 2025 before I get the new album.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 16:58:17 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Nov 2012 16:59:11 GMT
Johnny Bee says:
Thanks Gordon

Scott I to IV and 'Scott Walker Sings Jacques Brel' is as far as I've got. Maybe one day.

Posted on 8 Nov 2012 17:27:36 GMT
Vaughan says:
What's to understand? Thank goodness someone is making music that isn't simple posing and posture. This is honest music, dark and heavy (talking about his latter catalog).

I've pre-ordered Bish Bosch. I was excited to see it was coming.

Thank goodness for someone cutting their own furrow, rather than playing some naff plastic whatever...

Posted on 9 Nov 2012 15:19:48 GMT
EW99 says:
A great comment in Mojo this month saying something like Captain Beefheart made music you can't imagine anyone else making, Scott Walker makes music you can't imagine anyone else wanting to make.

Very excited about Bish Bosch round these parts too, Vaughan. I just bought the new Wire magazine today for the Scott interview.

Posted on 9 Nov 2012 21:37:42 GMT
Red Mosquito says:
Nice thread KO. I'm now stating to take notice of SW. Has anyone heard anything from Bish Bosch?

Posted on 10 Nov 2012 15:34:04 GMT
not yet - but the reviews in Mojo and Wire magazine tickle curiosity - thats the joy of the music forum...encourages me to explore...

Posted on 10 Nov 2012 15:41:06 GMT
Last edited by the author on 10 Nov 2012 15:45:55 GMT
K.J.S. says:
Scott Walker - Bish Bosch (Album Trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfrVuhD8maE

Scott Walker - 'Epizootics!'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ih7KzKLLWA

Posted on 10 Nov 2012 16:47:28 GMT
Last edited by the author on 10 Nov 2012 16:47:56 GMT
AlanMusicMan says:
Yes, it's easy to understand the intent - it's art. Specifically it's as dark and impenetrable as possible - with the intent of getting himself as far away from "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" as possible. The fact that most people fail to derive any enjoyment or understanding from albums like "Tilt" is probably of little moment to Scott because he's having a great ride - still after all this time - getting stuff out of his system. Good luck to him, but I'm not buying any more of it. I depresses my soul unutterably - and that's not what I want from music. Your mileage may vary... etc.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 19:10:23 GMT
Last edited by the author on 10 Nov 2012 19:15:45 GMT
Gordon D says:
"The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Any More" was pretty dark itself (no pun intended), as were many of the Walker Brothers' records. I'm sure Scott Engel pushed this more than John Maus & Gary Leeds would really have wanted, but Maus's & Leeds's contributions to the group's last album ("Nite Flights") weren't exactly upbeat, either.

KO, I don't know how you feel about Dylan covers. I love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8H9o4r4NkI

Posted on 11 Nov 2012 15:22:29 GMT
Cartimand says:
I think the darkness was why he was attracted to Brel's songs. A brilliant songwriter but a disproportionate amount of suffering, loss and death contained therein!

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Nov 2012 16:26:16 GMT
surely "Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" is as dark as it gets....he he he

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Nov 2012 16:30:50 GMT
Hi Gordon - wow ! I love Dylan and have an almost obsession about 'covers' - this is nice dylan cover - I like 'em odder...like dub/bluesgospel things...theres a thread around here somewhere I think..

Posted on 13 Nov 2012 00:04:46 GMT
Vaughan says:
Music ought to excite and interest all experiences of the human condition, imo. Upbeat, down beat, happy, sad, and everything inbetween. At least for me. Scott Walker is doing, and saying things, that I couldn't possibly express or make. He's an artist, and a very good one. His slaves over his recordings for long periods of time - these aren't records made in a week. What makes him acceptable to me is that he's earnest, committed, and HONEST. And if that means expressing darker things, then that's the deal. It certainly doesn't make me depressed. It might be a reflection of the artists depression, but I don't quite see how it could make the listener depressed. It's all wonderfully creative.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Nov 2012 09:04:09 GMT
Dan Fante says:
I liked the track Orbital did that sampled Scott Walker singing Jacques Brel's song 'Next' - 'The Naked and the Dead'.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2012 20:18:20 GMT
Gordon D says:
KO you might like the interview in today's Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/nov/23/scott-walker-interview
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