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Posted on 30 Jun 2010 12:05:32 BDT
Last edited by the author on 30 Jun 2010 12:11:43 BDT
Puffany says:
G'day China/Cornish....thanx for the feedback guys. I'm actually a late bloomer with GD mainly because they never toured Shane Warne (formerly Australia) and were never given any exposure here until the 'Touch of Grey' film clip appeared. I was aware of them existing but the first time i heard them was in the early to mid 80s around the time i picked up a copy of Zabriskie Point - i gather you guys are familiar with that soundtrack. The first album i bought was the compilation 'Skeletons...' just to get a quick taste back in 1990, I think. Then right at the very end of the 90s it kind of all happened real quick. Hundred Year Hall & DP3 both blew me away and then bang bang bang - you know the addiction - i couldn't get away. My wife was thinking of holding an intervention for me! By the way, I'm currently listening to Cow Palace '76 (with the bonus disc!) as i'm typing. They still aren't my favorite band but they share the no. 2 spot along with at least 25 others.
No Cornish, i've not heard their last show and i'm thinking maybe i shouldn't - i gather it'd be like listening to Zeppelin's 1980 tour. Strangely enough, i have 2 shows from 95 on my ipod that i've never listened to - may 26 & june 25. I totally agree on the help/slip/franklin combo - dynamite! The only track i don't have time for that you mentioned is 'Looks Like Rain' - totally agree with the rest. Disc 2 of DP16 is probably my most played disc of any GD i own.
China: Interesting that you started with 'Wake of the flood'. - a truly great album, but what made you start with that one?
Would you believe i've never personally met any other GD fan. I know GD fans exist here somewhere - I can smell them, but i can't see that far...

'The bus came by and I got on, that's when it all began'

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Jul 2010 00:40:32 BDT
china cat says:
g'day Puffany - begs the question what's your #1 band?
"wake of the flood" just the first thing I heard; still at school. pretty nomadic shortly after with some time with a household of heads in Edinburgh and furthur out in the Hebrides. plenty deadheads around there in the 70's. wandered round uk and europe, 6 months in WA, hanging out in Scarborough beach. never rained once, not surprised you don't like the song, you don't get enough of the stuff. maybe you're busy dodging crocs up in Darwin though. here in the middle of Scotland and down in Cornwall it surely looks like rain a lot of the time, though not this year up til now. plenty cold rain and snow between the sunshine daydreams. spent five years in SW Ireland, an oasis of traditional music. Back in Scotland, patching my bones, getting old and in the way, discovered the wonders of computerland - deadnet & amazon etc. and here I am rambling on listening to Dark Star from DP4

"Nothing left to do but
smile, smile, smile"

Posted on 2 Jul 2010 01:28:46 BDT
Puffany says:
china: very nice dark star on dp4. No crocs where i am - just kangaroos/colourful birds/aussie rules football/summer boobies. I had to check my previous post and realised i did forget to put my no.1 band: Zeppelin. I haven't really needed to listen to them for many years but was into them from the time my brother brought home their 3rd album when it came out. I was 7 years old and it's still my favourite zep album. They left an unbeatable everlasting impression on me.
As far as live acts are concerned, GD & Pink Floyd are the bands I continually go back to. 1971 Floyd shows are great....not a real Darkside fan and don't like listening to live renditions of it....love the shows from the Wish You Were Here & Animals tours. That is it for Floyd. There are only a few Zep shows i like post-1972.
What was this discussion about?? Oh yeah - GD.....cool band.

Posted on 3 Jul 2010 13:24:27 BDT
Hi Guys, well for me there's no-one like GD, and I tend to collect as much as I can on CD GD related especially Garcia. However I too like Zep and Floyd. Never caught Zep live, but saw Floyd a few times in their earlier days. First time I saw them, they started with "Careful With That Axe Eugene" - a new one on me and I recall the bass intro made my guts feel like jelly - when Waters screamed and the band came in, Nick Mason was hitting his kit so hard, pieces of broken sticks were flying over our heads, and that continued for the whole show - God knows how many sticks he got through. My consciousness had been heightened that night (if you get my drift), but I remember leaving the concert feeling pulverised.

"The bus came by and I got on"

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2010 23:47:01 BDT
Puffany says:
Starting off the show with 'Careful....', that must have been some Floyd show, Cornish. Nick mason was more into it those days when they heavily improvised. Hang on.....what was this discussion about??..............GD - cool band. Did you also see GD in '72 or any other years?

The heart has it's beaches, it's homeland and thoughts of it's own

Posted on 4 Jul 2010 14:03:18 BDT
Hi Puffany, the truth is there are only 2 bands/artists I really wish I had managed to see but didn't - Hendrix and the good ol' Grateful Dead. There always appeared to be some major event in my life which prevented me from seeing them, in 72 I moved towns, started a new job and got married so no I never made it. The last time I was going to see them was in '90 but both my parents died unrelatedly within 10 days of one another (but at least I've got a copy of the show). My wife and I were planning a trip to California and attending a couple of their summer gigs when we'd been married for 25 years but of course Jerry died in '95.

When one of my friends lost his wife, he did talk of us going to Atlanta to catch the last show on "The Dead's" Wave That Flag tour in 2004, but I can't remember why that didn't come off now. He did buy one of the limited sets (750) of the whole tour though (105 CDs) and like the good mate he is burnt off every one for me.

So there you have it - never got to see them in the flesh and never will.

"In the attics of my life
Full of cloudy dreams unreal"

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Jul 2010 19:38:14 BDT
china cat says:
G,day Puffany, hi Cornish - share your two regrets Cornish and add Airplane with Grace Slick to the list. Did catch a lot of shows in the 70's and a few recently. Standouts were Floyd in 75(?) and Bob Marley in 76. First was when they introduced "Wish you were here" pre-release, followed by Dark Side and the whole of Meddle as an encore. Been at the magic ingredient in the Koolaid and memorable it was indeed. Marley and the Wailers were just outstanding. Not really into crowd scenes these days but been given a ticket for CS&N in Glasgow this Tuesday. Keep you posted how the old folks are doing. Enjoyed "Deja Vu Live" but no Neil Young this time...

"I have spent my life
Seeking all that's still unsung"

Posted on 4 Jul 2010 21:38:22 BDT
Puffany says:
Hey guys:
i know how you must feel not seeing your favourite band - life can be cruel Cornish. i actually started a thread on this subject within the last week.
Cornish: must be a real good friend to burn off 105 cds. It's easy to notice that the Dead community look out for each other. Speaking of limited edition sets, i don't understand why Deadnet don't release more copies of the 1969 fillmore west box sets - it's ludicrous and torturous for GD fans. You've got to stick together and all email Deadnet at the same time with a petition.
China: I would've loved to see that Marley show. I had a chance to see him not long before his death and for some reason that i can't remember didn't go. Floyd would've been awesome too. I would've slept through the Darkside part and woken for the encore. I did see Waters on his Darkside tour here a few years back and loved the 1st set which consisted of songs like 'Dogs' & 'Set the Controls......'. The 1977 tour would've been the one for me to see when they did 'Wish...' & 'Animals' material.

Posted on 8 Jul 2010 10:20:35 BDT
Puffany says:
oh yeah!
I've just received my Road Trips 3.3 with the bonus disc and am overwhelmed with the bonus disc alone! You'd be crazy not to get this while the bonus disc is available on the strength of the energy of St Stephen/NFA/Lovelight. I've only roughly listened to the whole set without taking it all in, mainly to make sure there's no damage to the discs as i always do when i buy something. It's not all great and contains some hilarious Weir vocals. I have however noticed that the good stuff is awesome which makes it all worth it - no surprise there.
Yeah Cornish & China - i'm back on the Dead wagon again....riding that train, high on Vic Bitter.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jul 2010 12:47:31 BDT
Good to hear Puffany!

Like I've said before "Wave that flag, wave it high and wide".

Posted on 10 Jul 2010 00:34:13 BDT
Puffany says:
G'day Cornish: I remember you mentioned in an earlier post that you were looking for the 10cd fillmore west box. Was it ever, or is it available in mp3 format?? If so, were you able to get it in that format?

Posted on 10 Jul 2010 14:10:16 BDT
china cat says:
Puffany - glad to hear you're finding stuff to entertain; there's certainly a wide range of material and approach.

Ordered Winterland 77 on your recommendation, Cornish. Deadnet announced dispatch today. Saw a bonus disc on ebay, quite pricey - any comments on the material/quality. A Chicago night, I think.

CS&N was a great show - four excellent musicians backing them and the old folks did good. Nash holds it all together, Crosby was looking well and radiant, Stills a little rough. Singing voices undiminished and some entertaining covers in the second set - getting ready for an album to supplement their pension. Wouldn't it be great if Lesh and the boys however titled would pay us a visit.

Recently reunited with "Deadicated" after a long absence. An old friend taped it for me on release many moons ago, but tape was eaten by a mean machine. Tried to find it but was deleted. However found a 2nd hand import and enjoying reunion a lot. Bruce Hornsby great, Suzanne Vega's "China Doll / Cassidy" a particular favourite but all apart from "Deal" pretty sound.

Posted on 10 Jul 2010 15:20:58 BDT
Hi guys - to answer some points:

Puffany: never saw the Fillmore Box as a download - remember it was limited to 10,000 copies. I bet many so-called famous/popular acts wish they could sell box sets at the rate the GD have/do. The last copy I saw for sale on Ebay went for 22 + postage above my maximum bid, which I placed in the closing minute, to a bidder who had gone exceeding high I reckon. This was the cheapest I've seen one go, but I will always limit my bid, otherwise really silly money could be spent.

China: I'm not sure what bonus disc you're referring to, if it's the one with Winterland 77 then it is Chicago 12 May 77 and is really good quality like the rest of the box - if they are still dispatching the 10 disc box, count yourself very lucky.
Deadicated is a fine tribute album, another one if you can get it is Grateful Dead Tribute Stolen Roses - just seen the Zon price!!! There are some really unusual ones out there as well such as Might As Well: Persuasions Sing Grateful Dead and Wake the Dead: Celtic Celebration of Grateful Dead - there's plenty out there if you look around.

Remember "The grass ain't greener, the wine ain't sweeter either side of the hill"

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jul 2010 17:41:32 BDT
china cat says:
thanks Cornish, that was the one. might as well check out some of your other suggestions..

wet and cool round here...."Summertime/ Done come and gone/ My, oh my"

Posted on 10 Jul 2010 23:26:44 BDT
Puffany says:
China: i'll definately be putting in my order for that 77 winterland box within the next month - the bonus disc would've been the icing on the cake if it was still available. Maybe deadnet should put out a box set of bonus discs! There's certainly enough from different sets - Road Trips alone would be a box set or two.
Cornish: i've just now noticed that the '69 box is being sold by dealers on amazon usa for an insane $2425 american dollars. Even the used copies are very steep in price. It may be an idea just to find someone that can burn off a copy for you - deadnet forum?

Posted on 11 Jul 2010 01:09:03 BDT
S. R. Tulip says:
It is worth saying again that people are always surprised by GD. It perhaps also needs saying that they are almost always disappointed.

Oil wasted on the oceans and upon our seas, fish full of mercury.

Posted on 12 Jul 2010 15:25:54 BDT
D. Twink says:
I finally placed an order for the Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack. Great price for 5 CDs, and even though I've listened to hours of the Dead it'll only be my third original release! Looking forward to my lengthy dose of '74 Dead.

Posted on 12 Jul 2010 17:52:38 BDT
PUFFANY: - I live in hope!

TULIP: - What's it like to be wrong most of the time??

D. TWINK: - Good for you - enjoy, like you say a bargain!

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2010 21:32:25 BDT
Puffany says:
cornish: the annoying thing is amazon won't let anyone on their forums exchange any kind of contact details even if they want to do any swapping of music etc. - i know this because one dude asked amazon if they could forward their email address to me via amazon, not the forum, but amazon refused to help. Good luck fella.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2010 21:46:29 BDT
Last edited by the author on 12 Jul 2010 21:55:05 BDT
Greysuit says:
Puffany - there is a way.

First make sure that the person you want to swap with is on line and on this thread.

second step - post "I'm about to post my e-mail" and post. DO NOT actually post your e-mail at that step - anyone tracking the thread (and I'm one) will receive that e-mail.

Third step - go back in and edit the post by inserting your e-mail.

Forth step - ensure that the person at the other end acknowledges receipt by posting something like "Got it" (regular tapping of the F5 key) and then go back in and delete your e-mail address (or even the whole post). Wait for incoming e-mail and reply.

Yes - there is a bit of a risk but by taking the above precautions you minimise the risk and your e-mail address will (should) only be visible for a couple of minutes max.

Hope that helps.

kind regards.

☺ ☺ ☺

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2010 01:07:56 BDT
Puffany says:
Thanx for that info Greysuit. I can't remember who it was that wanted my details but i'll note this anyway.
i'm rarely on at the same time as you guys though. I'm on while most of you are sleeping, and vice-versa.

cheers.

Posted on 16 Jul 2010 23:06:12 BDT
D. Twink says:
The Movie Soundtrack arrived today and I've already enjoyed the first three discs. Great stuff. The packaging is kind of funny, with one 3CD case and a separate 2CD case. But altogether in the outer cardboard box it looks pretty neat, though it would make more sense (and would probably look even cooler) if they'd just called it Winterland 1974 or Farewell '74 or something like that. But don't get me wrong, it's a great set as it is!

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jul 2010 23:47:37 BDT
Puffany says:
Good stuff D. Twink. There's plenty to like about the soundtrack. The movie is cool too, along with the extras included. I hope one day they'll release the songs in the movie in their entirety - you'd think the footage must exist.

Posted on 17 Jul 2010 00:47:09 BDT
china cat says:
SRT - wow, guess that's it for the other one.

Posted on 17 Jul 2010 00:54:34 BDT
china cat says:
hi guys glad to hear you're enjoying the soundtrack, DT.
Winterland 77 still comes with the bonus disc; arrived with DP 19 and been listening to that first, lots to like. Busy at work so will dip in as and when..

"Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know
See how it feels in the end.."
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