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In reply to an earlier post on 6 Mar 2010 22:40:32 GMT
china cat says:
plenty of sunshine, snow on the ground but cold and not much sign of a thaw. in spite of bob weir's fondness for weather reports, snow doesn't feature much. o california!

about half a mile from balado (T in the Park), there's a place called coldrain. Drove up there once and it turned out to be one house. even estate agents were struggling to sell that location.

always had a fondness for scarlet begonias - some cracking lines
lyrically it's the star of the show, but the drama of china doll tops mars hotel for me

"once in a while / you get shown the light/ in thestrangest of places/ if you look at it right"

Posted on 9 Mar 2010 17:26:50 GMT
Road Trips Vol.3 No.2 (with bonus disc):

china cat -
if you're about (and considering the discussion above), I thought you might be interested that my copy arrived today direct from Rhino in California via airmail. I reckon at most it will cost 22 (including postage), so that's 10%+ saving on the UK dealer price and I've got it quicker - can't be bad can it?

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Mar 2010 18:36:37 GMT
china cat says:
cornish : no indeedy - have you given it a listen? you're going to have to build an extension if you keep this habit up.

"we'll see summer come again"

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Mar 2010 20:39:08 GMT
Hi china:

Well I've got through 1.5 CDs before the dreaded TV had to go on for Mrs C. I might finish it off with cans later on. It's 70s - my favorite decade so I was bound to like it. At that time Hart had temporarily left and "Pig" was sick, so it's the basic 4 with Keith Godchaux on piano. A good set from what I've heard with a bit of an unusual DS as they segue El Paso into the middle of it! It contains a lot of my favorites - Bertha, Jack Straw, Deal and a very spirited Casey Jones. Well worth having but I guess you knew I'd say that!

"Sing your song sweet and low"

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Mar 2010 21:02:51 GMT
china cat says:
CD : sounds like you need that extension right enough; i wondered if the DS would work. i'm with you on the 70's. for about 30 years europe 72 was my fave, tho it has its dull moments. spoilt for choice these days. listening to jack straw from hartford 77, after that long laidback Sugaree. generally tight and mellow. rarely listen to anything from much later though touch of grey is one fine song. having just written that can think of a few other things.

"the more that you give, why, the more it will take"

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2010 18:28:40 GMT
Hi - just found this forum and the question about Black Peter.

The following site contains some suggestions...

It's a facinating place to spend an hour or so! As you may already be aware.

Posted on 19 Mar 2010 18:43:03 GMT
Mr Blackwell says:
Well i've just spent 2 weeks listening to 'To Terrapin' and what a superb set it is!! majestic playing,never really thought of Garcia as a guitar hero,some of his playing is mesmeric.

My girlfriend is worried,as being the sort of person that requires all of a bands output,it may be a rather expensive time,maybe i should 'cherry pick', is that possible? with this band? i wonder.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2010 19:56:46 GMT
china cat says:
hi mr b glad you enjoyed the hartford '77. there's so much out there suggest you start by listening to some live sets from 3 or 4 periods: 69 - 70; 71 - 74; 80ish including the digitally reissued "reckoning" (acoustic sets with a difference) and 89/90 (trucking up to buffalo has a good range of tunes) alternatively you could go for the Golden Road box set and some later live sets - not sure of the digital remastered status of the former. no doubt cornish can be more specific with recommendations. avoid most arista studio stuff, steal your face, skeletons from the closet. there are so many reviews and diverse opinions out there, dip in. blair jackson's biography of garcia has a good critical discography besides being a good read... good luck.

"a broken angel sings from a guitar"

Posted on 19 Mar 2010 20:18:07 GMT
There is also the most useful internet live music archive which has a ton of Dead that you can stream for free so that you can hear what these things basically sound like before shelling out -

Good luck!

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2010 20:46:13 GMT
Hi Mr B - you've got some good advice from china cat and smitty but if you like the "Hartford" concert, my personal recommendations from official releases are:
Rocking the Cradle: Egypt 1978/+DVD
Live at the Cow Palace: Daly City, Ca - New Year's Eve 1976
The Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack (74 - 5 CDs bargain price)
Dick's Picks 29 ( 2 shows/6 cds: 19 & 21.5.77)
Dick's Picks, Vol. 15 (3.9.77)

There is a box set released in the US (which I have) Winterland 77 (3 consecutive nights 7,8,9.6.77) which is a real motherlode, and a sister box to Winterland 1973: the Complete Recordings/Live 9-11 Nov 1973, a great box but the 77 is unbelievable. Keep a look out.

"May the four winds blow you safely home"

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2010 21:20:59 GMT
china cat says:
mr B - definitely second the movie soundtrack - a great allrounder at a good price.

Mr CD am waiting for the first two on your list so glad to hear you recommend them. Dick's Picks 15 is on my wishlist and 29 looks inviting - how does it compare to vol 3? second time you've recommended winterland 77, note taken. have the closing show 31/12/78 but confess it's a while since i listened to it. Enjoyed the road trips 3/2 but thought el paso was the highlight of the dark star. loved the TCU night.

"dust off those rusty strings just one more time"

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Mar 2010 21:27:36 GMT
china cat says:
hi smitty thanks for the link; new to me. have to see if i can get this old head round the technology. probably have to wait for some passing offspring!

"i guess it doesn't matter anyway"

Posted on 20 Mar 2010 12:24:46 GMT
Last edited by the author on 20 Mar 2010 12:26:35 GMT
Mr Blackwell says:
Well thanks people,all kind suggestions taken on board,had thought of making 'Rockin The Cradle..' my next venture,seeing as it included the dvd.Although now i may just order the movie soundtrack,didnt realise it was 5 discs,nice price,although having checked the various listings and discographies,i have to advise both my girlfriend and wallet have both fainted!! ha ha

Re 'steal your face',the sleeve looked so inviting!! i'll assume the Arista era is not looked on with any fondness?

On a wider note,i also just bought Frank Zappa's best of,really good,but bl**dy h*ll,look at that discography,i sense a relapse.

Posted on 1 Apr 2010 01:34:38 BDT
Mr Blackwell says:
okay i'll throw this to the dead head who frequent this forum,who are clearly more knowledgeable than me on the subject.

having just dipped a toe into the waters,To Terrapin being recently purchased,a rather good it is,im currently listening to Grateful Dead: Movie Soundtrack(excellent as well).

I note that live/dead remastered is available at less than 3 quid,although some reviewer felt it wasnt as good as the original cd release,is it worth a punt?,failing that 'Rockin The Cradle is next on my list

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2010 02:45:24 BDT
Mr. B - Live/Dead at that price is definitely well worth it. Sonically I haven't got any problem with the remaster unlike that reviewer - presumably the previous edition was a 'straight to CD' transfer so I fail to see why he would prefer it.

I think I'm right in saying that the 23-minute Live/Dead version of Dark Star is the most beloved of all (although some folk inevitably have different favourites), but the whole album is great. Obviously you're not getting the whole gig(s) but it was a double vinyl album on release so there were time constraints. Should you be interested in supplementing it with additional live material from that time (1969) I would wait for the opinions of Cornish Deadhead and one or two others - they're always very helpful and I'm sure they'll respond soon.

Incidentally, one of the two uncredited bonus tracks at the end of Live/Dead is a sub-3 minute studio version of Dark Star which I think was a single b-side (hence the shortness).

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2010 09:09:06 BDT
At 3 it is well worth a shot, in fact it is still worth it at twice that price. My favourite track n it is called The Eleven, a swinging belter in an odd time signature. The bonus tracks are great, as is the sound quality.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2010 09:58:40 BDT
Last edited by the author on 1 Apr 2010 11:36:55 BDT
Mr B - I have the original and the remastered versions of all the GD original albums and so far as I am concerned all the remasters are sonically better, providing you have the equipment capable of differentiating. I would have no hesitation in going for the bargain!

A lot of the bonus tracks on the remasters are really worth having with the live albums Reckoning: Remastered & Expanded, (acoustic) & Dead Set: Remastered & Expanded, (electric) both having a whole CD of extra material.

"And you know that notion
just crossed my mind"

EDIT: Just thought of some more useful info. If you purchase Live Dead and and want some more from that series of gigs, then go for Fillmore West 1969: Live, a 3 CD set. There was a limited box set (of 10,000) which contained the complete series of shows, but even on a pre-order, I was not lucky enough to get one!

Posted on 3 Apr 2010 01:14:26 BDT
I agree with everyone else. Live Dead is considered one of the great live albums of all time, and rightly so. The version of Dark Star is sublime (incredible to think it was totally improvised - it seems like a well rehearsed composition), and is well worth 3 quid just on it's own. But the rest of the album is nearly as good, and I'd also second Cornish Deadheads recommendation of the Fillmore West triple CD. Some fantastic stuff on that. It's a shame the box set was limited, although it really is for the hardcore Deadhead. You can pick one up on E-Bay from time to time, albeit for silly money, but I wouldn't dream of selling mine.....

Posted on 17 Jun 2010 09:12:20 BDT
Roads Trip Vol 3 No 3 is now available from Deadnet. It's 15 May 1970 and is to celebrate 40th anniversary of Workingman's Dead - it's the first RT 3CD set with a bonus 4th for early orders. It should be a good one - track listing is:

1. Don't Ease Me In
2. I Know You Rider
3. Ain't It Crazy (The Rub)
4. Long Black Limousine
5. New Speedway Boogie
6. Casey Jones
7. St. Stephen>
8. That's It For The Other One>
I. Cryptical Envelopment
II. Drums
III. The Other One
IV. Cryptical Envelopment
9. Cosmic Charlie
10. New Minglewood Blues

1. Deep Elm Blues
2. The Ballad Of Casey Jones
3. Silver Threads And Golden Needles
4. Black Peter
5. Friend Of The Devil
6. Uncle John's Band
7. She's Mine
8. Katie Mae
9. A Voice From On High
10. China Cat Sunflower>
11. I Know You Rider
12. Cumberland Blues
13. Hard To Handle
14. Morning Dew
15. Dire Wolf

1. Good Lovin'
2. Dark Star>
3. St. Stephen>
4. Not Fade Away>
5. Turn On Your Lovelight
6. Cold Jordan


Features more selections from the Fillmore East plus a blistering sequence from Meramec College in Kirkwood, Missouri.

1. Friend Of The Devil
2. Candyman
3. Cumberland Blues
4. Cold Jordan
5. Easy Wind
6. Attics Of My Life
7. Beat It On Down The Line
8. Next Time You See Me
9. New Speedway Boogie
10. St. Stephen
11. Not Fade Away
12. Turn On Your Lovelight

Hope some are interested + I didn't want to see this thread die!

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jun 2010 13:18:40 BDT
Post Soviet says:
Is this good if im beginner with GD ?

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jun 2010 14:39:17 BDT
Hi PS - if you're literally just starting out with them - go for:

Live/Dead: Remastered
Workingman's Dead
American Beauty: Expanded and Remastered

If you get on with these, then explore further. Have a read of this thread - there's quite a bit of info on it.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jun 2010 17:06:50 BDT
Post Soviet says:
Ok, thanks !

Posted on 17 Jun 2010 17:35:48 BDT
Really looking forward to this. 69-70 is probably my favourite Dead era and I love Dick's Picks 4 & 8, the two previous releases from '70 (especially fond of the acoustic set on DP8), so I can't wait. Not listened to much Grateful Dead for a while - so much other music to choose from - but what with this and the newly arrived Crimson White and Indigo set I'll probably be on a Jerry binge for a few weeks!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jun 2010 00:50:28 BDT
Puffany says:
thanx for the update on the Road Trips. I've finally found someone who has compatability with the system Deadnet now use for ordering. My order is in and i'm off to see the candyman.
winterland '77 is next on the list - too bad i'm too late for the bonus cd with this one.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jun 2010 08:20:22 BDT
Sounds like good news Puffany - hope you enjoy. I can't understand why the 77 box has not been released in the UK yet.
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