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When listening to Elton John sing anything (even "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road") realize he was NOT born gay ! Nobody is (mygenes.co.nz) ! The fact that most identical twins (if there is any homosexuality among them at all) have only one gay twin prove this!


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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 21:30:23 BDT
Zirklif says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 22:35:05 BDT
Sparky says:
Well I think he might be as he is always using long wurds and corrects my speling misstakes.

Posted on 12 Jul 2013 22:38:56 BDT
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Posted on 12 Jul 2013 22:41:13 BDT
nocheese says:
Sorry Brassy and the rest of you, but I think your snickering 'humour' is every bit as homophobic as the OP.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 22:49:23 BDT
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Red Mosquito says:
Ah the deflection technique. I thought I read somewhere that you are a teacher. Am I mistaken Brass Neck?

Posted on 12 Jul 2013 22:53:26 BDT
RAB says:
I'm just gonna go ahead and say I don't see anything homophobic about the OP. It states a fact that's been claimed by some obscure professor on some obscure website, states no opinion on the matter and then leaves us to it. Nonsensical? Yes. Pointless? Absolutely. Offensive? Not in my eyes.

Posted on 12 Jul 2013 22:58:42 BDT
Lez Lee says:
Unsurprisingly I agree with nc.

Posted on 12 Jul 2013 22:59:35 BDT
Mr Blackwell says:
'The fact that most identical twins (if there is any homosexuality among them at all) have only one gay twin prove this''

the original poster is innacurate anyway...

even if both twins were gay,each twin would still only have 1 gay twin, for any individual to have 2 gay twins,they would actually have to be triplets!

Proving the original poster has no idea what they are talkin about. and of course its all bigoted drivel anyway.

Posted on 12 Jul 2013 22:59:49 BDT
nocheese says:
That's a bit disingenuous, RAB. Don't you think think the OP has a motive?

Posted on 12 Jul 2013 23:03:34 BDT
Sparky says:
I have a gay friend who is always making similar 'jokes', is he homophobic? Or just distasteful? Or is it just that crazy rule that he is allowed to do it but a straight person isn't? I agree it's puerile though, I'm always getting it in the ear for that.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 23:09:38 BDT
Red Mosquito says:
A fair observation RAB but there is often a sinister motive to providing fuel for the fire

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 23:12:37 BDT
RAB says:
He never seems to have a motive in any of these sorts of posts. Just spams them. Now this is obviously a slightly more controversial topic than Benny Hill or the Lusitania, but if he's trying to offend, he's doing a very poor job of it. If he isn't trying to offend and is merely stating an opinion that someone gets offended by, well that's the internet I'm afraid.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 23:13:28 BDT
nocheese says:
I don't think it's a crazy rule that's it's OK for gay men or women to make jokes about their sexual orientation, I think it's absolutlety necessary that they can and do. But don't you realise that it sounds completely different coming from the mouths of the straight majority? I wouldn't crack jokes about Jews, but it's great when people like my old mate Schiz (where are you sweetie?) do.

Posted on 12 Jul 2013 23:30:32 BDT
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Red Mosquito says:
But if the so called jokes are always about the intimacy of sex it tends to re enforce an unhelpful, unhealthy and unfair stereotype imo. And I would expect a person of influence, a teacher for example, to challenge this so called banter in the classroom/ playground but how can you uphold such a value if you then indulge in such behaviour yourself? I thought teachers modelled pro social behaviour.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2013 23:35:32 BDT
But then someone, I'll name no names - well OK then, me - might feel that that is being homophobic as we are unable to treat the situation on equal terms. I'm pretty sure gay folks crack jokes about us straights. In fact I know they do, I've heard them.

Going back to what you were saying earlier, I've aimed one or two of what I consider quite amusing barbs at the OP myself and don't feel guilty about them.

Major generalisation: Gays and straight are probably always going to argue about what is or isn't homophobic. We're probable always going to take the mickey out of each other as well, but as long as it is in a good way that seems fine by me.

Posted on 13 Jul 2013 09:07:40 BDT
Red Mosquito says:
What is homophobia?
Homophobia is the irrational hatred, intolerance, and fear of lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) people.
These negative feelings fuel the myths, stereotypes, and discrimination that can lead to violence against LGB people.

The danger is that the jokes define a person purely on their sexual activity which imo is unfair as there is so much more to a person than their intimate life.
Can a gay person hate or be intolerant of another gay person? I'm sure that's possible

Posted on 13 Jul 2013 09:47:17 BDT
Last edited by the author on 13 Jul 2013 10:00:49 BDT
MC Zaptone says:
While I agree that some of musical suggestions are too crude to be respectful, we shouldn't be too precious, either. Most of my gay mates are fed up of being categorised and are more than capable of standing up for themselves. Not to mention their capacity for wicked, dark humour that would probably reduce most on here to tears. The problem is no matter how you present your case, for or against, one is always susceptible to generalisation and stereotyping. Take Red Mosquito's statement (sorry my friend just an example not a personal dig!)
'Can a gay person hate or be intolerant of another gay person? I'm sure that's possible' That implies that somehow that they think or feel differently than you or me. Many homosexuals I've known have been very racially intolerant but that could be because of homophobic attitudes of those particular people. It's well documented that there exists a tension within gay circles, most transsexual cross dressers are looked down upon, for example.
All social classes/genres have quirks, prejudices and outlooks.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2013 09:53:07 BDT
Johnny Bee says:
This thread has bottomed out.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2013 10:26:16 BDT
Red Mosquito says:
I think we agree MCZ. I only know how I think and feel. I can only assume what all other people think or feel. What people tell me about their thoughts and feelings is not necessarily what they are thinking and feeling.

'That implies that somehow that they think or feel differently than you or me'. Does that imply that you assume that I'm not guy?

Posted on 13 Jul 2013 10:44:07 BDT
easytiger says:
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Posted on 13 Jul 2013 10:44:19 BDT
i get it, i get it...............it was not my wish to offend.

i have a very strict belief system, in that i have none - discrimination on any level abhors me - however, i am stricken with a sense of humour that is puerile, infantile, and often inappropriate (so why i have no time for benny hill, i don't know), and tend not to notice the upper limit of 'how far can too far go?'(the cramps).

there. i've reined myself in by not responding to johnny's amusing post.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2013 11:09:58 BDT
MC Zaptone says:
Red.....'That implies that somehow that they think or feel differently than you or me'. Does that imply that you assume that I'm not guy?

That made me giggle..yep me fink you guy, me no sure if you a guy who love other guy tho'!!!

Actually you are correct, I hadn't countered in the fact that you may very well be gay for all I know. Apologies for leaping to conclusions, rightly or wrongly.

You certainly have much better taste in music than most of my gay friends so I could be basing my assumptions on that fact alone.
Digging a hole now, so I'm leaving it there!

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2013 11:34:54 BDT
Last edited by the author on 13 Jul 2013 11:47:05 BDT
Red Mosquito says:
ts but you have just responded to JB's post.
MCZ I don't think you are digging a hole. I think you make interesting contributions to the music discussions on here. Perhaps all this highlights is that we sometimes get drawn to conclusions on the basis of what's written without knowing the author. Well I know I do.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2013 12:32:41 BDT
Sparky says:
Sorry, but no, it doesn't necessarily sound completely different coming from the mouths of the straight majority. It depends entirely on how it is said and the pre-existing relationship. Most of us are on fairly familiar terms and know it's a (puerile) joke and most of us would be astonished that this could be considered homophobic. And how do you know we are straight anyway?

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2013 13:02:38 BDT
Red Mosquito says:
Well I can't imagine Elton John inviting Brass Neck to his next dinner party and if Elton wanted to take the matter further I don't think there'd be much left of his teacher's pension after the lawyers had finished!!
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