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Posted on 20 Jan 2013 18:24:15 GMT
Leftin says:
There's a record shop in Cheltenham, Badlands, which has already been trading for years, and shows no sign of slowing down. Anyone else been there?

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 18:12:30 GMT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jan 2013 18:12:53 GMT
ah right, thanks - its an awful and quite common combination - Arrogance and Incompetance ...perhaps he'll make his way over to the health Service when he's finished burying HMV

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 18:06:21 GMT
The CEO if HMV who despit all the evidince to the contrary being presented to him rode roughshod over the interviewer in asserting that his business model was a work of genius and his leadership 2nd to none

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 17:53:46 GMT
can't follow the banter - NC who are you and Peter agreeing is a bit of a so&so ?

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 17:38:03 GMT
earlollie says:
There is such a choice of music offered up on the internet, that there is no place for the likes of HMV anymore. Independent record shops will still survive because of the ambience and specialization they tend to offer. At least, I hope they will, as it is still great to be able to pop into a record/music shop and browse even if that particular pastime has lost a lot of the excitement and anticipation it once held.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 13:44:20 GMT
Norman says:
Well said Peter, I dont like the smug bastard either. so there!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 13:01:09 GMT
RedAlFire says:
PA..totally agree on Waterstones. Independently (as Waterstone's) they were excellent, on becoming part of WH Smith group (now Waterstones - subtle huh?) they lost some of the panache but remained quite savvy on customer requisites. Since being sold to EMI group (under HMV umbrella) and merging with Dillons the staff are quite rude, unhelpful, orders take forever and prices are nowhere near as competitive as they were (especially on back catalogue titles) whereas stock held seemed to diminish - being replaced with bookmarks and other paraphernalia in abundance.

Such a shame as I always enjoyed shopping at both Waterstones & Dillons. The simile with HMV et al is that they have suffered since taking on the retailing of games and the like (IMO) - there just may be a niche for the independent 'I know music and have/can get what you want' shop once again...if only the economic climate would allow it.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 12:46:09 GMT
CHEEZE says:
Agreed PS, especially those that 'No' vote the OP.

A lot of the button pushers are just saying 'Eff off', or 'I like you', (Nothing to do with the discussion)but it means nothing if you can't see who they are.

Have a 'Yes' ;-)

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 11:45:26 GMT
Interestingly I was recently in a Waterstones and felt it either wasn't run as well as my local branch or the company had gone right down hill. I was unaware until this thread that they had been taken over by HMV whom I've nevr though highly of.

The first HMV shop I knew opened jut at the start of the St. James Centre in Edinburgh. There was much excitement at the thought of a much loved and respected label operating their own outlets and this thing was vast by comparison to high street shops let alone the poky wee record shops we were used to.

Even back then at the dawn of their entering our high street they were not much cop and the eagerly awaited opening turned into major disappointment, in the vain hope they might have improvedI would go in very occasionally for a desultary poke around as i worked round the corener. They never did and by nthe end of their first year I was ignoring their presence entirely. At that time the city was well served by a variety of independents, about the tenth of the size and yet somehow stocked ten times rather than 1/10th the variety.
There was no HMV for a number of years after I moved here and when they did appear, from the off it was not a pleasant place to shop even if they had stocked stuff i was likely to want,

What amazes me is not that they are being forced to go but the fact that it didn't happen not years, but decades ago. It is something of a major miracle they surved past their first year of trading. I'm convinced their survival will end up being woven into the bible as evidence of divine intervention and proof of the existence of God (though quite why an omnipotent being has shares in a high street store rather escapes me)

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 11:44:24 GMT
Post Soviet says:
zon, please an option "get a virus, basterd".

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 11:25:04 GMT
CHEEZE says:
This has to be the most civil of forums?
Try Politics/Religion/Kindle,& the first thing you notice are the Nutters!

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 11:22:23 GMT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jan 2013 11:22:47 GMT
ok, perhaps an option that allowed more than a mere 'No' - perhaps 'No and the troll responsible for this comment should consider going to a dark quiet room for a very long period of time and have a serious think about what they've gone and done' - what ? too pithy ?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 11:18:40 GMT
Johnny Bee says:
But then I wouldn't be able to routinely go trolling through the threads, offhandedly rejecting everything as adding nothing to the discussion - have some consideration, ko!

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 10:40:48 GMT
as for yes / no buttons - harmless fun but very limited : Mr Zone could you add a 'neither of the above', 'don't know' and perhaps a 'maybe, but can I get back to you later with a more considered opinion' option ?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 10:38:54 GMT
I just wanted to send good will and wishes to Mr Setford - more power to your elbow Sir.

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 10:23:09 GMT
Syriat says:
I think it's also about service though. Those retailers who charge more usually offer service and information, advice and guidance that makes up for it. I go to rough trade in London fairly often and the service, listening posts and friendliness makes up for the price (which is usually more expensive). In our world of instant gratification it is very odd that listening posts are gone in HMV. After all you go in and listen and buy.

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 09:18:50 GMT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jan 2013 09:19:34 GMT
T. Parker says:
It's about market forces. I know that every time I go into HMV some of their prices are prohibitive compared with shopping on-line. The same has happened, although some years ago to "Our Price" due to not pricing competitively. For whatever reason, good or bad, people are entitled to buy items at the cheapest price they can find. Savvy shoppers have every tool at their disposal these days from apps to specialist money saving forums and websites to help them do so.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 08:40:58 GMT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jan 2013 08:44:57 GMT
To Foe and misterjoe
People have expressing their views on theatre performance by exclaiming 'bravo' or 'boo!' for decades
We vote for our politicians at the ballot box and even Roman emperors gave the gladiators a thumbs up or thumbs down.
Comparing discussion vote buttons to x factor culture is a weak argument.
Is it truly tragic to use the buttons or is it even more tragic that people have their knickers in such a twist, they openly whinge about it?
I use the buttons to express my displeasure at insulting, irrelevant or moronic comments and I use the yes button to show enjoyment of witty, informative or pertinent comments. And when they are used against me, at least I know someone has considered the fruits of my typing, good or bad.
When I have finished writing this I will vote 'no' to both of your posts because they have nothing to do with the HMV discussion, Neither does this post, but that's because I do have something to say. Let the voting commence.

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 06:58:10 GMT
S. A. Pearce says:
I tried to purchase an iPod for my niece a couple of years back & ordered it from HMV's online store.
Three days later they refunded me explaining their were no iPods in stock.
THREE DAYS!!
The business was run obviously from the top by complete clueless morons who couldn't even get the online part of its operation correct.
The upshot of this; I never ordered anything from them online again even if it were cheaper.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 03:16:10 GMT
TheFoe says:
Agree, unfortunately we now live in a society where we are expected to express our thoughts and feelings at every given opportunity. Ironically more often than not, those that do are usually the ones that have nothing of interest to say.

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 03:12:47 GMT
mister joe says:
Yep you are right spacepig.I know its bad to lose your xmas voucher but when you are going to lose your wage that pays the bills,feeds a kid,put clothes on your back it puts it in perspective.All these people just getting told overnight its horrid.Maybe service has gone downhill because companys don't look after their staff.Its going to be a highstreet of coffee shops,hairdressers,tanning salons.

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 03:07:39 GMT
mister joe says:
I find it so pathetic how people "vote" comments.Truly tragic,these are the types that moan about x factor culture yet reduce everything to a click of a button.YES NO.

Posted on 20 Jan 2013 01:15:45 GMT
John Setford says:
Shops cant compete with the internet as they have to pay a higher rent and business rates. If you have an internet store your rates are 90% lower than a high street and rent is lot lower as well. They also pay minim wages and in the case of some on line shops they don't even pay the same tax. Amazon only pay 10% tax. Its unfair competition. The Government need to walk up>

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 01:05:40 GMT
John Setford says:
internet shops don't pay high street business rates or rent. In fact Amazon don't even pay the same tax. The government need to wake up.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2013 01:01:54 GMT
John Setford says:
They stooped being a music shop years ago. I have had my own shop for 38 years and we are still going strong OK as we look after our customers.
I could turn there business around in 12 months.
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