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Initial post: 25 May 2010 23:10:17 BDT
CHEEZE says:
I am struggling to find a couple of programmes/films per week on terrestrial tv worth watching.
Even Jools has been pretty poor lately,IMO. (Just to keep it musical.)
TV was never this bad. Was it ?

Posted on 26 May 2010 00:23:49 BDT
zargb5 says:
TV on the whole is pretty lame. The good programming does stand out because of this, but i suppose it all boils down to what you like personally. In recent times i have enjoyed BBC's 'wonders of the solar system' 'Horizon' (science) 'Lost' is thought provoking. The best series for me has been 'flashforward' which has been some of the most intelligent and entertaining TV series for some time.
Derren Brown investigates bulls**t shows the paranormal to be wishful thinking nonsense. Its good to be rid of the political stuff which has been stuffed down our throats, we all knew the tories would get in and start cutting our throats anyway. I am a fan of Charlie Brooker so his shows are a highlight for me. Oh there's quite a few things on really......

Posted on 26 May 2010 07:58:00 BDT
Post Soviet says:
mostly because of ads.

Posted on 26 May 2010 08:28:24 BDT
T. Franklin says:
"In recent times i have enjoyed BBC's 'wonders of the solar system'"

I've caught the end of that a couple of times. May be misjudging the programmes as a whole, but I could have done without the gushing "ohmygodthisissoooamazing!!" presenting style.

Posted on 26 May 2010 08:33:18 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 May 2010 08:35:48 BDT
Fompous Part says:
Probably because we only pay 145 per annum for the privilege of watching it. I would happily pay that a month, plus a pint of blood per week for the television that is piped so effluent-free into our living rooms...

Mind you it should get cheaper if they didn't pay such vast amounts of money to modern-day cultural icons as Jonathan Ross.....

Charlie Brooker gets my vote as well as a major highlight, although he has caused me to come dangerously close to wetting myself laughing. Perhaps I can remove the dry-cleaning cost from my next TV licence???

Posted on 26 May 2010 08:52:51 BDT
How can you suggest that TV is rubbish with gems like the Iron Chef on it????

I was recently assaulted by this nadir of daytime TV and it got me to thinking just what is it about daytime tv programmers that makes them think that anyone would want to be subjected to this garbage. The BIG problem for me with it all is the cult of the presenter. The Iron Chef had this self loving hyperbole flinging greased down vile suit wearing toadying limp handshake of a presenter who just kept looking at the camera and firing off ill thought through comments. It was gallingly obvious that he knew next to nothing about real cooking and was most interested in how he was coming across to the viewers. Even the title music was crap. This man could be put onto any show about any subject and just let go, he could witter for hours, appearing to be excited and posturing, noisy and empty like the proverbial vessel. Germy Vile(name changed beyond recognition for legal reasons) is a jumped up pompous berk. What gives him the right to slag folk off, even if he is right in every respect about how low and dismal these folk are? All he is missing is a cape and underpants on the outside. Methinks that outwardly berating folk in public like that is a psycological coverup for the guilt that he hides about some dark secret, lurking like a bad smell in a deep drain. I may be wrong, this is an opinion and not necessarily fact.

Vampire Weekend, on Jools, to get back to music telly, reminded me musically of very early Talking Heads. I thought they were by far the most interesting musical contribution to the show. Tom Jones has the VOICE however. Saw him last year and was stunned at how incredibly good he is in concert. Why did I put off seeing him so long??????

Posted on 26 May 2010 09:59:03 BDT
Huck Flynn says:
it's boring because it can get away with it - paying the TV Licence isn't optional (legally)
of course for all the old proggers (like me) there's always plenty of old repeats ;-)
ironically i enjoyed just everything on Jools last night (except Jools himself who i continue to find insincere and incomprehensible) - great to see whispering bob again - why can't he host the show?
michael moseley's "story of science" has been quality and fascinating

Posted on 26 May 2010 10:07:23 BDT
gille liath says:
I can't understand why BBC3 and 4, instead of repeating whatever cr@p they showed last week, don't repeat old, good shows like ITV3 and 4. I suppose they have to keep up this ridiculous pretence of new programming which in practice, as you say, MIRC, means shows abt prog rock.

More generally, I think the problem - which isn't confined to terrestrial - is that we've had this massive expansion of channels, but nobody seems to think it necessary to produce decent show to put on 'em. Unless you like these endless Yank dramas, you're f*cked.

Was it better in the old days? Most shows were cr@p then too, but the difference (as with music) is that lying amongst the cr@p were a few diamonds.

Posted on 26 May 2010 10:27:55 BDT
Nugent Dirt says:
I dont think Freeview and the Satellite channels are any better. Though I live in Germany I'm able to see most UK shows on iPlayer and some of the recent docus have been excellent like the one on the solar system and the current BBC2 one on the history of science. Some of an old fartoid persuasion like to knock current sitcoms and hark back to the 'glory days' of comedy. IMO in recent years there've been some quality shows like How Not To Live Your Life, Outnumbered, Peep Show, Coupling, Inbetweeners andstuff involving Chris Morris or Armando Ianucci.. A lot of the so-called greats from the 70s and 80s are way overrated if not pretty dismal and have dated badly. BTW am I in a minority in thinking Only Fools and Blackadder..aren't all that great?

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2010 10:28:03 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 May 2010 10:31:37 BDT
Micheal Moseleys Story of Science was an absolute stunner. Best show in years. Thanks for reminding me, MIR!

Crystal Castles were a bit strange. Was the emo girl singing or was it vocodered by the guy on keys? I could not make out a single word that they sang.

MGMT were good, but not just as good as Vampire Weekend, close though.

Whispering Bob, what a legend. There was a great shot of him on the OGWT having a quick ciggy whilst some band were noodling away featured in one of the Guitars on the BBC special. How things have changed.

Posted on 26 May 2010 10:43:55 BDT
MC Zaptone says:
T.V. is called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2010 10:48:09 BDT
Huck Flynn says:
nice one MC
it's certainly not called a medium because it keeps in touch with your spirit

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2010 11:12:36 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 May 2010 11:13:16 BDT
Nugent Dirt says:
Later used to be good when it featured a much higher proportion of 'world' music but over the last couple of series these have been few with the emphasis shifting towards sh*t indie bands. I dont get the hype around Vampire W and MGMT. Didnt see this show but I like Crystal Castles and IMO are better than Goldfrapp, who ply a similar furrow. Check out the excellent epon debut. No problem with the vocals there.

Posted on 26 May 2010 11:57:31 BDT
Tikka says:
I thought when I saw the heading this was going to be a load of Murdoch fans praising Sky and rubbishing the Beeb, as I've seen before on several other fora (some outside Amazon). My usual response is 'if you paid 400 license fee like some people are happy to (effectively) pay Sky each year, the BBC might be better'.

The (mucher higher than Sky) BBC ratings suggest that the audience generally gets what they want - Eastenders, reality shows and the odd good sitcom or (sometimes imported) drama series. However, I would point people towards BBC4 on Friday evenings, where (most weeks) there's a variety of music-related programming.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2010 12:00:12 BDT
Huck Flynn says:
i was impressed by Crystal Castles (against my better judgement - it's not the sort of stuff i generally have much time for) - lots of tuneful ideas. have to agree with smitty couldn't make out a word she was singing but it didn't seem to matter and she was cute

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2010 12:05:40 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 May 2010 12:06:18 BDT
Toffeeman says:

I'm with you on "The Story of Science". Brill. Last episode next week. I've got NCIS and Flashforward on permanent record but with the latter of those two I'm really only watching to see what happens at the end.

I'm always dissapointed with BBC4. There must be a huge archive of old musical shows that they could plunder but we tend to get the same old same old. Also, in the early days they did some really good documentaries on Robert Wyatt and Richard Thompson but that seems to have turned into a dribble recently.

I have to admit to losing faith with "Later". Jools always did annoy me but the music used to make up for it. Not these days.

Of course the problem with music on the telly is that your enjoyment tends to be based on what you like, and if it's what you like you probably won't learn much.

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2010 12:30:24 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 May 2010 12:33:19 BDT
Lez Lee says:
ND. At last, someone who didn't like Only Fools or Blackadder. I watched 10mins of Fools once and hated it and never watched Blackadder at all. My problem is that I can't stand David Jason or Rowan Atkinson! Nowadays I only watch some documentaries or one-off dramas but I don't think TV's that much worse --Terry and June anybody? Also, I listen to digital radio on TV as the radio reception here is rubbish.

Posted on 26 May 2010 12:55:21 BDT
Sera69 says:
It's definitely not all bad, you just have to tailor your viewing habits to make sure you're not sat in front of the thing 24/7! Really enjoyed Ashes to Ashes, FlashForward. Armstrong and Miller. Do also wish the BBC used 3 & 4 exclusively instead of repeating it again on 2 and then 1. BBC2 should be for the yoof, BBC 3 should be culture & science and BBC 4 for popular World TV.

What truly grinds my gears are the proliferation of "Millionaire" style quiz shows. Atmospheric lighting and pseudo-tension from hosts who think pausing is riveting! 19 yards? Heads or Tails?? Deal or no Deal??? (was there ever a more pants quiz?) The Million pound drop???? Actually, that last one would be quite good if it was faster and with a better host. Chris Evans should come back to do that. 1,000,000.00, 10 seconds, 4 answers per question, 10 questions. I'd watch that.

Posted on 26 May 2010 15:01:32 BDT
Sparky says:
I think the Beeb is absolutely brilliant - watch nothing else, ( I mean how much time do you wanna spend in front of the damn thing anyway).
Fantastic value for money - specially since they are gettin wid of Wossy!!

In reply to an earlier post on 26 May 2010 15:16:41 BDT
Nugent Dirt says:
Lez. Like the utter tripe that is Little Britain a key ingredient of these shows is the creation of catchphrases through endless repetition, which taken out of context are intrinsically not funny e.g. 'I have a cunning plan mr B' and 'You plonker Rodney'. With 'Blackadder' you've missed nothing, although the rave reviews would have you think otherwise. Like you I have an aversion to Atkinson and even more so his Blackadder co-writer Ben Elton.

Posted on 26 May 2010 15:32:40 BDT
SarahMcB says:
Vampire Weekend were amazing on Jools last night, the rest of the lineup not so much!

I agree that terrestrial is absolutely awful at the moment but Sky is just as bad, only there's a larger amount of rubbish to sift through! The BBC has Outnumbered & Being Human which are perfectly written & perfectly performed but aside from that everything is just so below average. I think budget cuts have alot to do with it but it really annoys me that so little effort is put into creating new drama and comedy & money goes into churning out trash like Waterloo Road or The Life of Riley.

Posted on 26 May 2010 15:47:51 BDT
Toffeeman says:
I suspect that there's about as much that's good on the telly as there was 20 years ago. The problem is that it's hidden on a gazillion different channels and much more difficult to find.

Posted on 27 May 2010 10:10:37 BDT
Nugent Dirt says:
All a case of rose tinted specs. I recall there being huge amounts of c@ck back in the 80s and early 90s ranging from Multi Coloured Swap Shop to p*ss poor family sitcoms - like Up The Elephant & Round The Castle or Mind Your Language - and Saturday evening family entertainment like 3-2-1, Seaside Special, Bullseye etc . I've also seen a fair few reruns of so-called classic sitcoms from the 70s and if they're considered worthy of repeating 30 years down the line I dread to think what got left behind. Considering how fragmented TV has become in general and the pressure on budgets I think the terrestrial channels are'nt doing too bad a job.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 May 2010 10:33:52 BDT
CJ Baldwin says:
"the gushing "ohmygodthisissoooamazing!!" presenting style. "

Fearne Cotton has a lot to answer for.

Posted on 27 May 2010 10:59:20 BDT
I don't think Fearne Cotton is entirely to blame, rather the producers of these programs who feel they have to imitate the worst aspects of US television. The Million Pound Drop is a case in point. Sera69 thinks it is a good concept that needs a better host. I have no idea of telling if this is true. After two minutes of an imbecilic audience whipped to a frenzy and making the usual screaming and whooping noises and an hysterical, incoherently shrieking presenter I switched it off.
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