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Initial post: 7 Jun 2012 14:43:29 BDT
Charlieost says:
I am trying to sort out my daughters bicycle for the summer because her air headed hippie mother left it out in the rain over the winter and it has suffered as a consequence. So I got the bike rack on the back of the car and bought it over to my place to fix. I'm ok with replacing gear cables and sorting brakes, de-greasing and re-greasing and oiling the chain etc but there is one thing that has got me foxed.

Turning the pedals pulls the chain and the gear cassette goes round but this does not move the wheel. This of course renders the bike inoperable.

So post bicyce songs to your hearts content but if anyone has a solution to this problem I would be very grateful and promise to behave in future.

Thankyou for your time. Charlie.

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 14:56:00 BDT
Sparky says:
Hi Charlieost, Obviously whatever connects the gear cassette (rear wheel cogs?) to the spindle has gone - never actually seen that myself but I do believe you. Without being facetious I would suggest taking the whole wheel to your local bike shop (as long as it's not Halfords) and asking them to fit a new cassette. It will probably be cheaper and quicker than messing about yourself, those things can be very contrary. Failing that bring it round to my place and I will get my hammers out.

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 16:57:39 BDT
RedAlFire says:
Had something similar happen to me recently - brought bike abroad with us and took the other half 2 years to get round to riding it. The nut/bolt holding the gear cogs onto the rear wheel had worked loose and suffered some rust damage inside, I took the rear wheel apart, cleaned and realigned everything and replaced the bolt, washers and nut. Seems to work well enough now....but took a while to adjust to function correctly. Hope this helps...

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 18:32:35 BDT
J. Parker says:
Sounds like in line with the other corrosion and abuse you mention that the pawls of ratchet mechanism in the sprocket/cassette that allows it to freewheel anticklockwise are frozen in the max open position and not biting back into place when reversing back clockwise. Have you tried injecting plenty of silicone lube spray into it from all joints and openings on both sides, leave to rest for a while then spin and give it a good tap or just generally beat the crap out of it and apply even more silicone until it hopefully comes back to life. It usually takes some serious weathering to screw one up but this is by far the biggest suspect than a complete mechanical failure, which would be very rare. If need be even try bathing it. With the wheel off the bike and horizontal (sprocket underneath) cup a small plastic bag closely around it using an elastic band on the spindle below to hold in place and remove any unrequired bag volume then fill with lube. I used to work in a bike shop repairing when I was a student many years ago and from that I know that parts and spares for kids bikes are generally always special order and very expensive for what they are (especially when you consider how much a whole new bike would cost)... Hence give the corrosion theory a good chance to prove itself before heading to a bike shop. You can remove a rear sprocket/cassette from a hub using a chain whip tool in an anticlockwise direction to fit a new one if required. Bike shops probably charges cost of a chain whip tool to fit and you will end up with the job done and a tool to use for other jobs or fix your own bike one day for free. Be aware that with some kids bikes particularly cheaper ones for toddlers, many parts like hubs are all in one sealed mechanisms that are not designed to be serviceable and you have to buy a whole new wheel with sprocket.

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 19:22:23 BDT
Lez Lee says:
Looks like you found your expert, Charlie!

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 20:08:01 BDT
Red Mosquito says:
Never Trust a Hippy!!!

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 21:33:25 BDT
Charlieost says:
Thankyou for all replies and J Parker (my mothers initial and maiden name oddly enough) I think that probably covers the problem so will be giving that area on the wheel a good lubing overnight. Ironic that doing the same to the hippie got me in this situation in the first place. Ah well. what goes around comes around as some of the people I used to associate with were fond of saying.

This is the second time I have been helped out at this forum with a totally non music thread. I think you guys are just wonderful. Thankyou again.

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 21:45:31 BDT
Post Soviet says:
Trying to figure out how all this could involve voting...

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 21:55:11 BDT
TheFoe says:
J Parker - 3
RAF - 2
Sparky -1


Posted on 7 Jun 2012 21:59:12 BDT
RedAlFire says:
But is it POP???? Hmmm.....

Posted on 7 Jun 2012 23:12:18 BDT
Post Soviet says:
Bicycle Race - Queen

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jun 2012 23:57:49 BDT
J. Parker says:
If it fails to work you at least still technically have a childs "excercise bike" or the potential to win more than enough money for a new one by just telling your daughter it is repaired. Just be ready to film the resulting few seconds of furious, comedy pedaling and inevitable sideways flop to the ground caused the absence of any angular momentum and dispatch to a home video clip show of your choice.

No problem!

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 11:00:46 BDT
Charlieost says:
Death by angry child, no thanks J. Sprocket had a good soaking in WD40 overnight and will get a wiggle and a bang after breakfast. Next move will be to get another 17mm spanner so I can undo from both sides. Very gunged up with rust. I have faith.

As for you other guys. You know how I feel about this voting malarky and the lists. I mean like so what. Who cares if some person can throw a spear further than another or something that looks like a pizza or run this or jump that? Woops, sorry, getting mixed up with the limp ics.

Love you all (but not in a weird way). Chas.

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 12:01:39 BDT
Sparky says:
Hmm...Thinks....... if I don't vote on this one I may maintain my current third place - a new personal best!!

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 12:44:54 BDT
Charlieost says:
Hi J. Just tested bike wheel over the sink and it is now gripping in forward motion. using de-greaser now to get all the old grotty rust and gunge out (quite a lot by the look of the stuff dripping out of it). Clean up, re-grease fit back on bike and text daughter who is doing her exams at the mo so bike will be ready for weekend which the forcast has given for sunny.


In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 14:12:03 BDT
Post Soviet says:
At a mo inflatable dinghy makes more sense (I got one!), Charlioeost. But.... dream on! '0)

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 14:15:09 BDT
Post Soviet says:
Dinghy - 4
Stay home order anything you need online - 3
Delta Plane - 2
Bike - 1

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 15:46:51 BDT
J. Parker says:
Hi Mr C. I am very happy it has worked out for you... A ride has to be one of the best ways to provide some relief and revitalisation for a revision addled brain (if only for the brief weather window expected for tomorrow afternoon). I'll possibly be out for a nice "relaxing" ride with my almost 3 year old as he perches on his pro-rider seat and greets everything animate and inanimate in the passing world by shouting at it at the top of his voice. Hopefully the hippy is now equally happy with her sink. Personally, I'm a bath man; as it tends to just catch just slightly more high velocity grease splatter than the walls and has the added advantage of scratching more easily and costing more to replace for the essential "dropping what you are doing" stage of any slippery refurb. Somebody has already mentioned Bicycle Race by Queen to keep things within the spirit of the forum. I only came on here for a book... Genuinely just realised I was about to accidentally post "I only came on her for a book" as the final sentence which would have left the discussion still open and taken it off on an unwelcome tangent. Cheers, Justin.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 15:55:57 BDT
nephran says:
Excuses +3
Lost - 2
Spear throwing -1 (zon censored my op due to the word

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 16:14:40 BDT
Sparky says:
I see your error, you obviously meant bonk.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 16:31:42 BDT
MC Zaptone says:
Justin, you are now an official Amazon escape, and the freudian slip
just reiterates your credentials. Welcome aboard.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012 16:43:25 BDT
Charlieost says:
Hi Justin. The five day met forcast for Ireland gives clear skies for the next week (now that sounds very Irish) so hoping to load the bikes onto the carrier and drive off to find tracks to ride on. Waiting on gear cables to fit because they have frayed on her bike making change awkward. Should have both bikes in fine form in a couple of days.

Fortunately I abandoned the hippie to her dope induced misery some years ago so we no longer share a sink and now live part of the time with someone who adores me (love was never enough). She has three sinks in the house and an outside tap (luxury).

All the best for the weekend and hope the weather stays good enough. Cheers, Charlie.

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 16:48:24 BDT
Val H. says:

As you're in Ireland and planning to be biking, have you heard Luka Bloom's new song - only out about 2 weeks?

"The Ride" -

A great sequel to his "Acoustic Motorbike".

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 16:49:51 BDT
Charlieost says:
Seen on a recent post on a bike forum where I was looking for solution, "I always grease my shaft and my balls and use a good penetrating oil before re-assembleing my parts".

Now there is someone who really likes their bike.

Posted on 8 Jun 2012 16:58:57 BDT
Huck Flynn says:
have you Toed the Wet Sprocket ?
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