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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Oct 2012 10:49:35 BDT
MC Zaptone says:
B. Ward. I don't think it tells you all you need to know at all. Spotify (and most other free-to-hear services are broadcast at ridiculously low quality to deter pirating. So I don't see a valid comparison between vinyl and Spotify. Just what were you hoping to equate?

Posted on 13 Oct 2012 10:33:39 BDT
Last edited by the author on 13 Oct 2012 10:49:53 BDT
I. M. Hall says:
Benjamin, I thought REga still made the Rega 2- its now between the RP1 and RP3. Amazon have a couple of RP1 called the Performance RP1 that look ready to go at £300- the RP3 costs £475. Sorry if I misled you.
I have a Rega 3 and am very pleased with it. So was the dealer who thought it was one of the best value decks he sold. I agree.

Posted on 13 Oct 2012 10:28:54 BDT
Thank you I. M. Hall and other people, I will check it out.

Last night I played a vinyl album through my humble system and it sounded noticeably better than the same track on (standard) Spotify. Tells me all I need to know I think!

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Oct 2012 14:25:56 BDT
I. M. Hall says:
Computers are so hard to fool.

Many thanks

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Oct 2012 11:02:52 BDT
Ian says:
I paid using Paypal and changed my address details in HDtracks - leaving everything the same except that my house is now in Texas. They seem happy with this arrangement!

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Oct 2012 10:50:24 BDT
Thanks for the added info. i looked up VPN so had an idea what it was but not the programs you have given. What about payment? Credit cards and PayPal will show my address. Or do CC's not show address? Plus what info do you give HDTracks address wise? If you have the inclination to answer, i'd be grateful. Thank you.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Oct 2012 10:39:18 BDT
I. M. Hall says:
Very many thanks for taking trouble to respond.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Oct 2012 09:51:44 BDT
Ian says:
A Virtual Private Network - it connects you PC to a server somewhere in another country (e.g. the US) and therefore makes it look as if you are in that country. Very handy if you you want to download files from HDtracks or watch movies on the US version of Netflix (they have a much wider range). One of my friends in the US uses one to watch the BBC.

I've used Gotrusted and proXPN, but there are lots out there. Some are free (but limit the amount of data and/or download speed, others charge a small fee).

I've not bought much from HDtracks but Daniel Barenboim's Beethoven for All as a hi-res lossless file was much cheaper than Amazon wanted for the compressed MP3 file.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Oct 2012 08:13:14 BDT
I. M. Hall says:
What's a VPN?

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Oct 2012 08:01:26 BDT
Ian says:
But you can get round it by using a VPN

Posted on 12 Oct 2012 01:15:51 BDT
Last edited by the author on 12 Oct 2012 01:17:11 BDT
Unfortunately, HDTRacks do not allow anyone outside of the USA to buy. Even worse, they don't bother to tell you that until you get to the checkout! They also ignored my mail suggesting they could make that clear in a prominent place on their opening page. Yes, i was miffed. ;-)

Posted on 12 Oct 2012 00:25:34 BDT
www.hdtracks.com can give you music (in FLAC format) up to 192kHz/24bit which is FAR better than the 44kHz/16bit of the normal CD. It gives the music a much closer to analog presence. I have thousands of LP's in storage and a professional turntable that I cannot wait to get back to play with. Will I give up my digital collection? Hell no but I sure as hell will NEVER pay the price these clowns want for inferior quality mp3's when I can download super high quality digital files or purchase full resolution CD's and rip my own mp3's.

The kinds of people that think it is OK to get ripped-off for the lack of quality in the music they buy are the same types of people that in the previous generation couldn't care less about the quality of the equipment that they played their albums and reel-to-reel tape recordings on. They couldn't care less about audiophile level equipment because all they wanted was to be able to hear some noise. They didn't care then and they don't care about quality now. These are the folks that the major sound equipment companies make those iPod docks for that you plug into your receiver. Why pay that kind of money for expensive equipment and then use crippled source material? Makes no sense to me...don't get me wrong mp3's have their place but NOT connected up to a high fi system.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2012 16:10:46 BDT
I. M. Hall says:
I would have a look at a Planar 2- see a Rega Dealer and ask for it to be set up with new cartridge. That should be well within you budget. It is incredibly rare to read a bad review or hear anything untoward said about Rega. They've been around for yonks and offer good value products that last.

Posted on 9 Oct 2012 15:18:38 BDT
In the subject of decks, I have about 200 records from my youth in the 70's and 80's and only have an about 15 year old Pro-Ject 01 deck (with no special "hi-fi" amplification system, the deck simply is connected to a Pro-Ject Phono Box II, then into a phono>USB convertor, then into my computer).

If I upgrade, is this the kind of thing to aim for, a Debut 3? : Project Debut 3 SE Turntable

I have seen on here a Rega Planar mentioned, is this a good alternative? I am not in a position to spend thousands in a system (my budget would initially be £600-£1000) so wanted to (re)start slowly! Any recommendations/sites gratefully received.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2012 14:13:11 BDT
One of the wonderful things about amazon and other sites is being able to prehear music. I have loads of different artists in my collection. In my early years i only had carly Simon, Joni Mitchell, 3 Bowie albums, Dark Side of the moon, tubular bells and Ommadawn! now i have Bob dylan (only very recently got him), Leonard cohen, Laura marling, Paloma Faith, Adele, Ryan Bingham, Noah and The Whale, Mumford and Sons, Donna Summer, Amanda lear, Grace Jones, Giorgio Moroder, Era, Enigma, Deep Forest, Nina Simone, Carole king, Mary gauthier, nanci Griffith, Dar Williams, tracy Chapman and more. males singers have only joined in the last 5 years, most fo them in the last eyar. I am 53 now. i too hope never to stop listening to new music. Assuming I remember to! I keep buying records i have already got. damn drugs.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2012 13:27:03 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Oct 2012 13:29:18 BDT
Ian says:
I can't imagine ever stopping listening to new music - although it gets harder to find new stuff as I get older I think it's incredibly important. I wouldn't refuse to watch a movie made after I was 20 or refuse to read a book written since then. So why stop listening to new music? My musical tastes stretch back to way before my teenage years (I was 5 when Pink Floyd released Dark Side of the Moon and I have original vinyl copies of Simon & Garfunkel albums made before I was born). I hope I'll continue to discover new music right up until the point where I go deaf.

Having seen the bitrate of mini-disc (it's incredibly low, but admittedly I've never heard one) your kids might have a valid point about getting an iPod.

Posted on 9 Oct 2012 12:27:32 BDT
tony says:
l only like 60s (and some 70s) music and have transfered all my collection onto mini-disc . in my opinion sony minidisc is the best way for me to back-up collection....i still have a seperates system,sony amp,sony cd,sony minidisc,kenwood and mission speakers,sony cd player and pioneer cd recorder..my kids (they never stop being your kids in your eyes) laugh and say dad get rid of them dinosaur seperates and get an ipod...!!!!!!!!! NO WAY..l think you musical tastes go back to your teenage years and to me the 60s was the best ever!!!

Posted on 6 Oct 2012 20:35:42 BDT
zap says:
um lol?

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2012 23:17:31 BDT
Hairy Horace says:
Thanks C.E.
And whatever you do, don't downplay what you spend on a turntable. See my cautionary tale!

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2012 22:58:20 BDT
Hairy Horace says:
Thanks I.M.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2012 22:57:58 BDT
Hairy Horace says:
Many thanks Brass Neck.

Posted on 5 Oct 2012 22:55:18 BDT
Last edited by the author on 5 Oct 2012 23:58:09 BDT
Hairy Horace says:
Thanks everyone for your replies re. the belt for my Little Pink Thing. Sorted. Thanks once again!
Incidentally, does anyone remember the Fons CQ30 turntable from the late seventies? It was being compared to the Linn at that time.
I'd just finished university, got a job labouring and was back home with my parents for a few months. I can't remember how much it was, but I remember saving for weeks to buy one, fitted out with the ubiquitious SME309Mk2 tonearm and Shure V15 cartridge. I didn't let on to my parents how much it had cost me.
Anyway, I got a job in my field away from home and left it at my parents' house along with the rest of my hi-fi system.
Not knowing any better, or how much it had cost me, my mum gave it away to a friend of hers whose radiogram turntable had broken down, thinking I wouldn't mind as if I'd really wanted it I would have taken it with me!
Aaargh!

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2012 19:31:43 BDT
Last edited by the author on 5 Oct 2012 19:32:52 BDT
MC Zaptone says:
Pete, I started the discussion and I don't get your disapproval, at all. When you instigate a discussion you need to exude a certain amount of passion to get a response.
Could you elucidate further, please. Personally I 'dare' to speak how I feel, don't you?
If not, why not? What are you scared of, exactly?

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2012 19:31:28 BDT
Oh dear. You had me going to loook. The answer to your question is yes. However, the company is now called Funk or something. The turntables are BEAUTIFUL. I have been wracking my brain for a way of getting a £3000 turntable past my husband especially when he knows I spent a bit more than half that on the Avid Diva !

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2012 19:29:18 BDT
I think some would but much fewer than those who are consistently rude via a keyboard. It amazes me just how riled people can get over the mildest of topics, such as this one.
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