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Initial post: 15 Dec 2011 08:28:00 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Dec 2011 11:23:01 GMT
André Jute says:
How does a novel of suspense differ from a thriller?

A thriller is expected to thrill, to open with a bang and not to relax the tension except to deceive until it closes with a bang, preferably in the destruction of expensive property a la James Bond.

A novel of suspense is a novel first. It doesn't have to offer artificial excitements but it can build the suspense relatively slowly. It too must have a climax pretty near the end. There was a time when a novel of suspense was better written than thrillers but that is not always true today.

Posted on 15 Dec 2011 08:29:07 GMT
Last edited by the author on 28 Dec 2011 23:06:28 GMT
André Jute says:
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-- John Braine // Sunday Telegraph

"How the hell did we come to where the President of the United States has two minutes to decide whether he will nuke Boston or kill the world instead?"

An extremely powerful novel of the biowar apocalypse,
traces the frighteningly plausible accidents by which the casual killing of a near-extinct mole escalates inexorably towards where an anguished President's must choose either to let a self-propagating bio-war substance kill the world's population - or to destroy a major American city by nuclear blast.

K116 is the top secret US chemical weapon that spells instant agonizing death to mankind. Self-generating in water, only a nuclear blast can stop the deadly dust expanding.

But when a lethal cloud of K116 escapes from a military research lab, one man survives. Charged with nightmare energy, Ribicoff becomes a walking carnage-machine.

Alive Ribicoff is a lethal liability - but dead his K116-glutted body will unleash chemical slaughter on a scale that will make the Black Death look like a summer cold.

Pursued by the massed might of US security forces, Ribicoff acts with the desperate, ruthless bloodlust of an animal at bay - until they corner him in Boston. Where his fiancé, the biochemist Stella Christopher, certain that he will come to her, is desperately working on a cure, despite the agents of her own government trying to kill her.

But will an American President act with equal ruthlessness? There is only one way to cauterize the city of America's Founding Fathers, and it will be no tea party...

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Director, Institute for Strategic Studies
BBC World at One

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Posted on 15 Dec 2011 08:29:16 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Jan 2012 06:26:12 GMT
André Jute says:
André Jute says:

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* Dakota Franklin has worked 15 years on the series. It shows in the quality of the novels.

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* Introductory price £1.98

* 125,000 words, a meaty read

* "On the track a racer has no friends"

Mallory, a crashed-out, half-dead, never-has-been auto racer, gets one last chance when triple Le Mans winner Charlie Cartwright hires her as an engineer at Cartwright-Armitage. Now she's on the fast track as an engineer, an executive, a driver - in a winning car! She even has a man she can love.

When ambitious tycoon Fred Minster steals the winning Cartwright-Armitage design, Mallory spearheads the investigation which uncovers a traitor inside Armitage.

Threatened by her investigation, Minster orders Mallory abducted by a Detroit criminal to keep her out of the race. Mallory knows that if she doesn't race at Le Mans, her career is over.

With heart-stopping, realistic race sequences both in the American Le Mans Series (ALMS) and at Le Mans, set against an insider's portrait of the high-tech jet set milieu of amoral predators whose only justification is winning, Le Mans is the key thriller for the new millenium. Here violence is never as much as skin deep, and ambiguous sexuality is merely another facet of power. Le Mans is the first novel launched in Dakota's great new series RUTHLESS TO WIN

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Posted on 15 Dec 2011 08:29:26 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Dec 2011 11:32:05 GMT
André Jute says:
Writers are readers too. Right now I'm dipping into The God Wars by Sierra Philpin £2.13. Super stuff, very quick and sure, clearly the work of an experienced hand.

Posted on 15 Dec 2011 08:29:33 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Dec 2011 12:26:20 GMT
André Jute says:
Of course, if you write short stories the suspense is so much harder to build. Here's
Twenty Tiny Tales by Willie Wit 86p
that I like as examples of perfect suspense.

Posted on 15 Dec 2011 08:29:41 GMT
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Posted on 15 Dec 2011 08:29:49 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Dec 2011 12:35:59 GMT
André Jute says:
Best way to tell a novel of suspense from a thriller is to look at the quality of the writing. Everyone comments on the quality of Seb Kirby's writing but he modestly calls his book a "thriller". We shan't' be so modest on his behalf.

Take No More (The murder mystery thriller) by Seb Kirby £1.91

Posted on 15 Dec 2011 08:32:07 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Dec 2011 13:17:41 GMT
André Jute says:
You can pick up bargains if you shop smart. For instance, going looking for more of the Sierra Philpin pair:

Suspense for those of literary taste: J.D. The Plot to Steal J.D. Salinger's Manuscripts by Sierra Philpin £2.13

They're the authors of the much more expensive The Prettiest Feathers, a bestseller which Random House is pricing at a fraction over ten quid.

I'll take the bargain book!

Posted on 15 Dec 2011 13:05:11 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Dec 2011 13:05:46 GMT
Another novel for those of a literary bent who are drawn by the suspense of a character's internal discoveries about herself: Saint Sebastian's Head, Kindle edition: £2.94

Although psychological in nature, SAINT SEBASTIAN'S HEAD unfolds inexorably and compellingly. Here's the back-cover description:

Weeble has a secret so painful she's hiding it even from herself. At ten, she meets Lauren Case, a book-loving daydreamer who offers Weeble refuge from the everyday degradations of life in her poor family. Weeble fiercely protects Lauren, just as she protects her sister Annie. But there are forces at work she can't withstand. When Richard Lee Grady arrives in town, he rips lives apart, including Weeble's. Four years after college, Weeble has a new life, new friends, and the potential for love -- if she can only admit what happened one hot July day in 1982.

SAINT SEBASTIAN'S HEAD is a dark and riveting journey into the human heart, where fairy tales and incest, angels and demons, magical thinking and guilt, haunt one incredibly resilient woman.

And a snippet of a review from a Goodreads reviewer: "This is an excellent book in several ways. Reilly's writing is direct, forceful, and lyrical at the same time. She deals with difficult and complex subjects in a compelling way that is easy to read while evoking strong emotions from the reader."

Posted on 15 Dec 2011 21:29:05 GMT
Seattle Quake 9.2

The countdown had begun.

They knew - scientists had been warning them for years. Yet, nearly two million people living in the greater Seattle area went about their daily lives as usual. A Detective Agency thought they had found a missing woman, an upstart radio station was on the air, and an eccentric banker had just started a round of golf. Thousands were driving on freeways, shopping in malls, awaiting flights bringing friends and families, working in downtown high-rises, and were on buses in the bus tunnel.

They knew -- they just didn't believe it could happen to them.

(This book is dedicated to Ham Radio Operators all over the world who open the lines of communication after a disaster. Although it was written over 20 years ago and the technology may be a little out of date, this book still honors their hard, behind the scenes work.)

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Dec 2011 01:05:57 GMT
Andre: I'm a new novelist. Could you look at my sample and tell me if you think it reads more like a thriller or a suspense novel? I would really like some help determining which categories to use. My novel is called Capitol Terror.

Posted on 16 Dec 2011 04:14:43 GMT
André Jute says:
Camellifolia: Ouch! If I did that for everyone, I'd never get any work done. You could borrow a copy of my book Writing a Thriller (Writing Handbooks) from your library (also cheaply available second hand, been in print 25 years) and test your novel against the parameters in there. If I were you, I'd try it in one or the other category and see if it sells, then a week or so later try it in the other to see if it sells better.

Posted on 16 Dec 2011 05:49:20 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Dec 2011 05:49:35 GMT
Seb Kirby says:

Thanks for the mention of my thriller 'Take No More'.

I'll have to brush up on my definition of 'thriller' (LOL)

Meanwhile, I'd like to bring people's attention to your own excellent novel IDITAROD a novel of The Greatest Race on Earth.

Best wishes


Posted on 16 Dec 2011 06:45:16 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Dec 2011 06:47:54 GMT
Hello there to all readers of mystery/suspense/thrillers.

I've included all three genre here as sometimes it is so difficult to separate them. Anyway I am an author of all three (and action/adventure/rite of passage/romance!) and if some readers don't know me then here's your chance. I have an author page on here, link is, with more info about me and my writing career and books.

I won't go into great detail about my books as I'd prefer readers to sample for themselves on each item, suffice to say I have included each book's link. Thank you for taking the time to read this and take a look at what I have written. There are some marvellous reviews on both and I have to say I like the new addition Amazon has made where you can now see all reviews from both Amazon sites.

The Assassins' Village Also in paperback

Children of the Plantation Also in paperback

Echoes of Life and Love - A Collection of Short Mysteries - A Collection of Short Mysteries

The Bamboo Mirror

The Crossing Also in paperback

And at the end of this month or early January I will be publishing my latest mystery thriller, The Surgeon's blade, which my beta readers tell me is ''a corker' and possible the best so far!' Watch this space!

My books are published by a small publisher and I really like interaction between my readers and myself, so feel free to contact me with any queries about writing in general, my books or indeed any other authors that they wish to share. As authors, interaction and feedback is paramount to us, so please let us know!

Enjoy books on here, whoever and whatever you read - we all share a common love!


In reply to an earlier post on 16 Dec 2011 10:56:59 GMT
Thanks for the response. It is possible to change the categories but you have to take the whole book down for a day (sometimes longer) when you make those types of changes. I will take a look at your book and see if I can get some pointers. Have you thought about making it available as an e-book?

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Dec 2011 11:06:17 GMT
Alison Buck says:
Hi Camellifolia
Just a quick point - when you post about your book you can use the 'Insert a product link' button (just above the dialogue box) to turn the name of your book into a link that's easy for potential readers to follow. Like this:
Good luck with CAPITOL TERROR ;-)

Posted on 16 Dec 2011 12:05:03 GMT
Seb Kirby says:
Andre / Camellifolia

I see that 'Capitol Terror' is available as a free book and it doing rather well! Maybe add some tags?

Best wishes


In reply to an earlier post on 16 Dec 2011 13:15:47 GMT
André Jute says:
@Camellifolia -- Not worth paying for a handbook for writers if your book is already doing well, as Seb says. And that's good advice too about adding tags. And Alison's tip about making a live link.

Yes, there will be an updated fourth edition of WRITING A THRILLER, on the Kindle, eventually. I was going to do it this year but was too busy with other projects.

Posted on 16 Dec 2011 20:07:15 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Dec 2011 20:07:33 GMT
Seb Kirby says:
Books that I've recently read with a suspense feel:

Hari Kunzru - 'My Revolutions'. A really well-written account of how the past catches up with its hero, Mike Frame. Along the way it shows up the fragility of belief.

Best wishes


Posted on 17 Dec 2011 12:27:20 GMT
André Jute says:
Genuine literary novels of suspense that you might want the entire set of: Dalziel and Pascoe by Reginald Hill:
The videos are also recommended.

I read all the Dalziel and Pascoe books while taking steam, and was immensely impressed with the skill and erudition of Mr Hill. Best suspense novelist now working in Britain.

Posted on 17 Dec 2011 12:59:32 GMT
Last edited by the author on 17 Dec 2011 13:00:05 GMT
Seb Kirby says:
Another book I'm re-reading right now is Raymond Chandler's 'The Long Goodbye'. Not as hard boiled as you might expect. 125,000 words. Described by Geoffrey Deaver in his introduction as 'one of the longest detective novels ever written' and, more surprisingly, as 'Hemingway-esque'.

Best wishes


Posted on 17 Dec 2011 14:21:14 GMT
Ian Fraser says:
my 2p's contribution to the 'suspense' genre...


Praise for No Man's Land (5 star review) "Like all the books I've read by Ian Fraser, No Man's Land defies categorization...well written and impeccably edited...The only warning I'd give about this tale is that it isn't for the faint of heart or the weak of stomach. It pulls no punches..."

Nothing is ever what it seems in Hollywood. Behind the glitz and glamor is a desperate society hanging on by its fingertips. A private investigator with a troubled past suspects that someone is trying to set him up. As he follows the bloody trail of evidence, he is led into a violent and unexpected No Man's Land.

No Man's Land: a brutal love story set in the heart of the American Dream.
*Contains explicit content*


Posted on 18 Dec 2011 12:29:07 GMT
Seb Kirby says:

Thanks for the recommendation for Reginald Hill. I must say that I've not read him at all yet. Looking on Kindle store UK, he seems to be doing quite well with 'The Woodcutter'. Sales of his others are much less. His books also seem to be quite long (400 - 600 pages). Which one would you recommend for an initial read?

Best wishes


Posted on 18 Dec 2011 17:11:10 GMT
André Jute says:
You may as well start at the beginning of Reginald Hill, Seb, with A Clubable Woman. It doesn't matter much in which order you read the books, IMO, because they're all different, but they do take place over a good stretch of years, so the reader who obsesses about such details might like to read them in order. I read one here and there for years, and then my wife bought the entire series in paperback and put them on my bathroom shelf, and I got drawn in... And the rest, as they say, is history.

Posted on 18 Dec 2011 19:09:24 GMT
Seb Kirby says:

Thanks. I'll check that one out (I guess that explains the steam!).

Meanwhile, I've posted a new article on my blog covering Penguin self publishing, KDP Direct and price comparison apps. Technical, but interesting, I hope.

Best wishes

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