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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 12:47:02 BDT
Sandra Giles says:
I just stay wherever is reasonably priced, though location is still a main factor. I also never understand why people fork out for 5 star hotels when surely the point in the holiday is to see the place, or to at least venture to the beach? If you want to stay indoors, stay at home.

Oh and I definitely agree that it's good to gain insight into each other's lives etc. It's why I created the 'Meet Our Authors' thread. I love finding out more about the brains behind the novels. We push our characters and their lives, but we don't talk enough about our own. I've 'met' so many nice and interesting people on here that it's great to learn more about them.

Anyway, I'll let Stella get back to her search for Thriller readers. I'm definitely more of a fantasy girl myself.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 12:50:03 BDT
Jim Webster says:
Hi Stella
My book is a bit like Nightwings, slow burn and getting more hectic.
BUT
You do want something to draw them in, a hook for that first couple of thousand words, something to grab the interest and get them to like the charactures and want them to read more.
If you look at the look inside bit in Swords for a Dead Lady I've perhaps made even this a bit slow burn, but it does hopefully set up a character so you feel you like him and get to know him a bit.
It probably needs more bang, that's what I'm working on

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:02:43 BDT
I'm actually preparing a hate list on my blog. That'll most definitely ruffle some feathers.

Guess I'll wait with my answer until the book comes back from my Thriller-experienced beta-readers. I'm already shaking in my socks. A friend has been through the beginning and had me laughing. My no-nonsense, straight talk editing-style has certainly rubbed off on him. Love it.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:04:25 BDT
mountainmama says:
Sorry, Stella, we're evidently on different shifts. For a thriller, I think so long as you have a prologue or opening chapter that grabs the reader and makes them want to find out what happened, you can slow down and build the characters and background. But you better not take too long or people will wander off.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:12:07 BDT
That's my worry.

If I have a prologue with 'action' it may take away the suspense. I'm a prologue hater anyway, but decided to maybe try one this time. So far I have two opinions: characters likable, characters not likable. I want them to be slightly unlikable because of what they did to the other character, then change the reader's perception as they slowly become victims and feel with/for them. In between I'll switch to the other character (which I could delete easily again without disturbing the storyline), to remind the reader that that person is the real victim and to achieve the reader being torn of feeling with the other three or wanting them to suffer. So it's a bit of a back and forth. No idea if I can achieve that, but I think it's doable.

Thank you. :-)

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:31:38 BDT
mountainmama says:
Sounds like you know what you're doing. And if it's different than what everyone else is doing - so much the better!!

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:31:38 BDT
Jim Webster says:
Perhaps you should try for 'intriguing' rather than whether the read 'likes' them or not

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:41:41 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Jun 2012 13:42:51 BDT
Funny thing is: one is an author (male, dislike), one is mainly a reader(female, likes), but with good knowledge of writing (she's a copywriter).

It's a fine line to walk. If you don't want the reader to toss the book across the room, hating the characters, you need to give the reader a reason for their being/acting like that. My fear was that the reader might dislike one character in particular as she's a right pain in the backside, but has a very vulnerable side to her, too. My characters in general are more like your next door neighbour. Very real and not intriguing per se, as most of us are boring.

Intriguing, according to my male friend is only one character as she works in the porn industry.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:44:21 BDT
Let's see if I can put that into action. Never read thrillers, only watch them. They often start slow, then pick up. Except Man on the Ledge, which had the action right from the start. Loved that, but I can't possibly do that.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:56:37 BDT
Jim Webster says:
Raymond Chandler said "When in doubt, have a man come through a door with a gun in his hand. "

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 13:58:38 BDT
Translate gun to sword, and that works for us, too....

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 14:13:45 BDT
LOL um... that would not work. By any means. hahaha.

I may have to use a rather um... sexy scene, which also contains graphic scenes of violence. It's a real downer for men, so my friend says. LOL

My other friend said she wants me to warn her when the hefty violent scenes appear. She read one, blissfully unaware where it may lead and had nightmares. Think Stephen King's Misery: the hammer and the foot...ouch.

Posted on 3 Jun 2012 14:18:22 BDT
Sandra Giles says:
What I love most about Thrillers (I'm talking films here) is that they are often the perfect balance of action and a good storyline. I don't like it when the focus is purely on blood shed with little else going on, and I guess it would be the same for novels. Build the characters but don't over do it. Make the reader understand whatever they're going through, and keep it both interesting and lively. But you can focus on just one aspect if you know what you're doing. All stories are different, so adopt your own style and hope it's one that others will enjoy. That's what I did with my fantasy novel. I wrote it for me, and kind of didn't mean to publish it. Long story lol. Just do what feels right to you, and if you read it back and lose interest yourself then change it.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 14:32:16 BDT
Yeah, that's why I refused to read Thrillers now. I don't want to mess with my voice. I have to keep six, at times even eight characters under control when they are all in one room. It's also 3rd person limited omniscient. Guess I set myself the challenge to combine all the things I hate/I'm not experienced with in one book.

Like you, I mostly write to challenge myself and, of course, I hope that readers will like it. It's something that hasn't been done before (the topic), or, at least not in that way. That's why I need the subtle hints.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 14:44:18 BDT
Sandra Giles says:
I'm intrigued by this new novel of yours now. I will most certainly be reading it when it comes out. Just prod me when that happens.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 14:46:28 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Jun 2012 14:46:55 BDT
It'll be under a pseudonym. Want to test how a book does when you don't make much waves or have a 'name' however good or bad.

But I could still prod you. :-)

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 14:55:07 BDT
Sandra Giles says:
Oh good. My memory is terrible though so you might have to tell me why you're prodding me..

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 15:00:01 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Jun 2012 15:02:05 BDT
You may even have forgotten about this conversation by the time I'm ready to publish (hopefully September/October).

Need to go, cleaning the house and still thinking about going to meet the great Dan Holloway, who's in London.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jun 2012 15:04:24 BDT
Sandra Giles says:
I'll put a reminder on my phone for the entire two months. It might help.

Okay, enjoy. Maybe not the cleaning so much..
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