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Initial post: 6 Jul 2014 11:52:38 BDT
Jim says:
How do I install the Opera browser on a KF ?

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Jim.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 12:51:25 BDT
Bawmer says:
Download from the app store.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 14:06:00 BDT
Jim says:
It's not in the App Store. It seems all browsers have been removed from there.

Amazon wants you to use only Silk, which routes through Amazon's servers, in order that they can data-mine you, just like Google and Chrome.

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Jim

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 15:16:45 BDT
You can either view data mining as a perceived, shocking affront to your privacy or something that is very useful when suggestions are made, or bus and train timetables are adjusted to suit when people wish to travel, or a nice price comparison turns up, or...

All browsers that show adverts data mine. Your usage patterns are mined by everything that connects to something else.

It's very easy to become anonymous if you really wish to.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 15:21:39 BDT
@JimM: Out of interest, is it possible to change the browser on other tablets? I ask because I see comments like yours and wonder if Amazon is doing anything fundamentally different to anyone else. For instance I believe that you can not change the interface on the Tesco Hudl - just as you would expect since it's designed as a Tesco's selling device.

Looking forward to your guidance :) CW

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 15:25:22 BDT
Last edited by the author on 6 Jul 2014 15:25:37 BDT
Bawmer says:
Are there not alternative download sources?

Posted on 6 Jul 2014 15:27:39 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 15:45:13 BDT
Jim says:
I also have a Hudl. Yes, you can change the browser on that - you don't have to use Chrome. I use Opera which is probably the best available, but I've also used Firefox and Dolphin in the past.

With Firefox you can prevent Google tracking you by using Ghostery, and you can block adverts with Adblock Plus which you can also use on the Kindle Fire.

The Hudl may be a Tesco product, but you wouldn't know it as Tesco keeps well out of the way. It's solidly built and has very good battery life, GPS and two cameras.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 15:49:15 BDT
Jim says:
Yes. I have the .apk file for Opera, but I'm unsure how to install it.

Strangely, I was able to 'purchase' Opera from amazon.com (Yankee-Doodle Land), but it hasn't appeared on my KF either on the device or in the Cloud. Stranger still: if I examine my apps from this desktop machine Opera appears in the cloud - but in no way does it show on the Kindle Fire.

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Jim

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 15:54:19 BDT
Jim says:
(wolley !!)

Indeed, but with Opera all roads seem to lead to Google Play and trying to install from there fails as it sees the Kindle Fire as an incompatible device.

Posted on 6 Jul 2014 16:22:07 BDT
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Opera mobile web browser

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 17:07:09 BDT
Damaskcat says:
If you bought it from the .com site when your fire is registered to the UK site then that is why it hasn't appeared.

Posted on 6 Jul 2014 19:05:44 BDT
Jim says:
>If you bought it from the .com site when your fire is registered to the UK site then that is why it hasn't appeared.

That may well be, but doesn't explain the anomaly of it being in my apps list in the Cloud when viewed via a desktop computer, but not when viewed by the KF itself !

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Jim

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 19:12:56 BDT
Jim says:
I find data mining and advertising offensive whatever their perceived advantages.

> All browsers that show adverts data mine. Your usage patterns are mined by everything that
> connects to something else.

I haven't seen an advert in years thanks to Adblock+ and haven't been tracked on this desktop for years thanks to Ghostery.

> It's very easy to become anonymous if you really wish to.

Easy enough on Windows but not so easy on Android.

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Google 2004: Don't be evil.
Google 2012: We have a new policy.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 19:38:40 BDT
 says:
Where did you buy the KindleFire, was it from the uk or .com? Could explain the reason why it doesn't show up if you bought the KindleFire from the uk!

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 20:48:11 BDT
Damaskcat says:
If you're so keen on being anonymous why is your real name showing on your publicly accessible Amazon wish list? Two clicks of a mouse was all it took . . .

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2014 21:04:08 BDT
Jim says:
Scratch one wish list.

Posted on 6 Jul 2014 22:22:05 BDT
Little Egret says:
To install an .apk first install the (free) ES File Explorer

Then download the .apk to the Fire and click on it File Explorer

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2014 01:56:17 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2014 08:24:27 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jul 2014 08:48:10 BDT
Damaskcat says:
You have learned something today - it's isn't as easy as you think to remain anonymous!

To the troll who sent me an insulting message on Goodreads about this thread - your message has been flagged to Goodreads and I have taken legal advice about your continual harassment and I have been advised to contact the police - who take this sort of thing very seriously. You have been warned. I would have sent you this message on Goodreads itself but - coward that you are - you block messages.

ETA: if anyone is having a similar problem on GR - you can require people who want to send you friend requests to answer a question correctly before the request will be sent. This I have done and hopefully this will stop would be trolls and stalkers as only people I know well will know the answer to the question.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2014 09:46:45 BDT
@Damaskcat: I set the question thing some time ago when the sickkos started sending obscene messages through. Not heard another peep from them so it works :)

Personally I consider anyone who can do those things contemptible - anyone who can do such things to a mature recently bereaved lady is beyond sick, as are those who support them with their constant petty voting (but I assume that's just one person with multiple accounts.)

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2014 10:15:19 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jul 2014 10:16:07 BDT
Damaskcat says:
Well some of them still seem to get through in spite of the question but I suppose it might take a while for it to take effect if someone has saved the link to my profile - mind you how sad is that?? I suppose it's keeping them off the streets while they create new e-mail addresses and think up stupid things to say.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2014 14:11:02 BDT
Jim says:
At last we're getting somewhere!
Many thanks Little Egret.

I have the .APK file for Opera for Android and will try that,

Thanks again.
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Jim

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2014 14:14:05 BDT
Jim says:
I guessed he was a troll as he was totally off-topic and added nothing to the conversation.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2014 15:11:35 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jul 2014 15:12:40 BDT
Completely on topic demonstrating that the Anonymity you crave is a worthless dream. Opera don't data mine. Of course they don't. Money magically wafts into existence for them.

It is easy to be anonymous though. Google and your wallet are your friends.

And your post was on topic and added what to the conversation?

P.s. Someone with a different opinion to you, or your inability to not be able to see the relevance of something, does not make them a troll nor, depending upon point of view, does it make you look look idiotic.
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