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Initial post: 30 May 2012 16:45:10 BDT
L Brasi says:
............ Lenin: A Biography

Posted on 30 May 2012 16:56:52 BDT
Last edited by the author on 30 May 2012 16:58:18 BDT
Ferret says:
Thanks. Interesting, but not exactly unbiased. But then who is? As Lenin would have been the first to point out...

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 17:00:48 BDT
Last edited by the author on 30 May 2012 17:02:41 BDT
L Brasi says:
where does the bias lie in this bio?

edit: I seem to recall you teach History?

Posted on 30 May 2012 17:13:35 BDT
Ferret says:
No one is unbiased in studying or teaching history. You can't be. Service was very anti communist (but who isn't these days when we know the hell on earth the best of intentions can produce). But I've not read the book yet. I'll get back to you with chapter and verse...

Posted on 30 May 2012 17:13:54 BDT
Last edited by the author on 30 May 2012 17:14:40 BDT
BeeJayTee says:
A few interesting bargains in the "Customers also bought..." underneath.

Edit: forgot to say "Ta" - but that's because I just bloody bought it!

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 17:22:10 BDT
L Brasi says:
I see.......... so your - ' Interesting, but not exactly unbiased' - is not based on having read the book, but on a generalised assumption you make about all historical writings. I have never actually expected history to be reported in a totally objective manner since by definition it is in the past and not available to us in the present. Thanks for making this point anyway.

Posted on 30 May 2012 17:40:23 BDT
Last edited by the author on 30 May 2012 19:30:57 BDT
Ferret says:
The point I was making is that there isn't and can never be such as thing as objectivity. We can and should try to avoid blatant bias but everybody has an agenda. A good historian (who of course has one herself) must learn to identify the point of view behind any historical writing. I'll be better able to discuss the book when I've read it. Children's party just kicked off next door - 100 decibels of disco music!

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:01:10 BDT
L Brasi says:
eRRRR - all my post was attempting to do was point out what I, in my humble history appreciation, thought might be a bargain of interest. Did not expect or want to start an in depth debate on the worth of political biography.

Don't let me hold you back from the party !!

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:09:49 BDT
Ferret says:
Don't worry about it - that's the thing about these threads - you can never tell where they'll go. Badoom - the disco beat is getting to me.

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:10:28 BDT
BeeJayTee says:
It's like reading a newspaper.
If you're intelligent enough you should accept you're reading someone's version of the facts.
I have several biographies of infamous leaders such as Gaddafi, Kim Jong Il and others by unknown authors.
I'll read them out of curiosity not to become "learned" and an "authority" about the subjects.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:19:25 BDT
L Brasi says:
Got another 3 of the 99p bargains BJ - will say no more lest I envoke another round of philosophy. Sometimes I wonder why I bover [0))

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:20:47 BDT
Funny I got the impression from one of the reviews that the bio was biased in favour of Lenin!

I did Russian at uni, I've been tempted to buy this one, just there are too many that I'd like to buy at the moment...

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:23:33 BDT
Ferret says:
Rab, don't be so defensive! I bought the book because of your post and thanked you :-)

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:24:37 BDT
L Brasi says:
do you speak Russian?

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:25:37 BDT
Bookie says:
No worries Rab, I thought you opened a fascinating metaphysical debate. It looks like an intelligent and informed tome.... cheers :)

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:25:58 BDT
BeeJayTee says:
If you look hard enough you'll find an author who thinks Adolf was misunderstood.
It takes all sorts.
Just because you've read a book doesn't mean you wanted your beliefs reinforced.
I'm a "non-believer" but I read much religion related material.
The life of Christ fascinates me but I reserve my opinion about all versions.
Isn't that what the printed word is about?

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:26:39 BDT
L Brasi says:
Defensive - I was attempting irony or at least sarcasm. ;0)))

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:31:55 BDT
Yup - well, I'm seriously rusty these days, but basically, yeah.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:39:15 BDT
L Brasi says:
I developed my interest in Russia far too late in life to do any more than read books - love the sound of the language and reckon their history and culture is absolutely fascinating.

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:39:17 BDT
Last edited by the author on 30 May 2012 18:44:45 BDT
Ferret says:
Irony doesn't always come across on the internet, hence all the emoticons. Sarcasm is usually fairly obvious but can often be misunderstood.
Edited to remove a bad joke!

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:41:56 BDT
L Brasi says:
that will go down just about as well as the points you laboured over here - suffer the little children ............ don't eat too much jelly or get pop on your shirt front.

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:42:14 BDT
BeeJayTee says:
Whoa - some party!

I was about to type "Now that's my kind of party" (Anti Corn Law Movement) -then realised that's a whole other interpretation.
Like you say, certain humour and remarks sometimes don't come across.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 18:47:01 BDT
L Brasi says:
I reckon 5 year olds might just be up to Ferret's sharp views on objectivity and the worth of political biography.

Posted on 30 May 2012 18:56:39 BDT
Ferret says:
I removed the silly joke because I thought people might assume I was comparing forum members with 5 year olds, which would be ridiculous! It's hard for us old fogies to convey meaning on this new fangled electric wireless.

Posted on 30 May 2012 19:00:57 BDT
BeeJayTee says:
Here guys - two beers.
say "Cheers"!
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