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Initial post: 29 Nov 2013 18:45:23 GMT
Last edited by the author on 29 Nov 2013 18:59:14 GMT
A. Bradley says:
Kindle Fire HD 7", Dolby Audio, Dual-Band Wi-Fi, 16 GB - Includes Special Offers [Previous Generation]

Apologies if this has been answered before - I'm considering this for my children (aged 9 and 5), but don't have WiFi at home (I could set up a router if necessary, but don't really need it at present, plus I'm a bit lazy). Basically I would want it for them to play games and watch films or TV, and don't really want them to be able to access the internet willy-nilly, either by accident or design. So my question is, could I download games or TV/Films via USB from my laptop for them to play at any time, or is the Kindle Fire HD worth me installing WiFi for them to be able to do so (with proper parental controls set of course)?

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 18:54:17 GMT
CBRetriever says:
you need wifi in order to download apps and/or games and/or videos

Posted on 29 Nov 2013 19:01:02 GMT
A. Bradley says:
CBR - apologies = I pressed the button before actually posting my question! ^^ Does your response still apply?

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:06:11 GMT
Last edited by the author on 29 Nov 2013 19:12:57 GMT
K. A. Newton says:
CBR

Can't I download apps and games on my Kindle Fire at McDonalds or Costa Coffee like I can download e-books using their free WiFi.

Nice to know in case my router decides to catch influenza or something.

Reply for A. Bradley.

My router went down a few months ago (had it for a long time) and was free when I went on broadband with AOl after being on dial-up for years.

I bought a new router off them and they added the cost of buying it on my following month's payment. I think it was about £24-70. including VAT. Very easy to set up both my laptop and my Kindles.

ps. You can put parental control on the Kindle Fire for your children so they can't go on WiFi without a password. Don't forget the pass word.

You being very brave buying one to share between two children.

If you already have Kindle e-readers or such in the house it might be as well to start a new Amazon account for the children's Kindle Fire and the media you buy. It'll stop any adult covers on ebooks off your books sashaying across the carousel.

Also if you do end up buying a Fire for later so they have one each, if they are registered to the same account their Kindles can share apps, e-books etc, You buy something once and can download it a second time on to the other Kindle for free.

Don't leave it, buy one.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:10:22 GMT
Denis Powell says:
Without WiFi a Fire is almost useless. As CBRetriever says, you'll need WiFi to download apps and games. TV won't work well without a fast connection. Many apps and games require a WiFi connection to check the validity of the license from time to time and update the ads. Without that they stop working.

The Fire you have in your link has Parental Controls that are, basically, all or nothing. All books or no books, all internet or no internet etc. You'll need a newer model to get FreeTime which is a more sophisticated version but even then, without WiFi it's not really worth bothering.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:12:29 GMT
Denis Powell says:
Yes, Kath, you can download most things at McDonalds etc., unless they have a limit to the amount of bandwidth required. The issue is that some apps and games will stop working if they can't check a geographical location, license or update ads. That can be done at a Hotspot too but could be inconvenient if you can't get there and want to use it in the meantime.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:14:05 GMT
K. A. Newton says:
Thanks Denis,

xxxxxx's to you. ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:15:21 GMT
A. Bradley says:
Denis - thanks for that. Another question (sorry - I'm a bit of a pillock when it comes to all of this, which is why I seek the counsel of the wise) - if I install a router and have wifi, are the parental controls not set via my Virgin media account rather than the Fire?

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:17:40 GMT
A. Bradley says:
K A Newton - I'm considering buying 2 - at £99 each it's probably worth the extra to avoid the inevitable bloodshed which would ensue from insisting they share! (plus a potential 8.4% TopCashback bonus makes them just over £90 each)

Posted on 29 Nov 2013 19:34:03 GMT
CBRetriever says:
I think y'all answered all the questions except about the video - doesn't it have to be streaming only for y'all?

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:34:53 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:55:30 GMT
Last edited by the author on 29 Nov 2013 20:03:29 GMT
K. A. Newton says:
Make enquiries in case the £99. Kindle Fire is only 8mb. My Kindle Fire 7" bought ages ago was a 16mb and I was forever having to delete things off it to fit others on.

edit. I have just looked at the ad and it does quote 16mb. thank goodness.

When I bought the Kindle Fire HD 7" - now called the Previous Generation - I bought the 32mb. I bought it the same day just as they brought out the All New Kindle Fire HD 7" which has no camera and no HDMI socket. Amazon later withdrew the 32mb version of the Kindle Fire HD 7" Previous Generation and are selling the smaller memoried ones.

The Kindle Fire HD 7" Previous generation includes the camera and the HDMI socket so you can connect it to your TV - if it has an HDMI socket.

Have a really good look at what is on the different ones. I'd definitely buy the 16mb model though.

Have a look at the messages on here - you can use the search engine at the right side of your screen.

The

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 19:58:08 GMT
A. Bradley says:
Awww .. Bagpuss, that's a bit unkind. Now nobody will want to help me unless their grammar and spelling is perfect.
(I could comment that you should have said Queen's English - but I'm not like that, so I shan't mention it.) ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 20:06:17 GMT
A. Bradley says:
Thanks K A Newton - I will do some more research - not much point getting a 'bargain' if it doesn't do what you want it for.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 20:52:53 GMT
Denis Powell says:
You can set some parental controls on your Router but that's no help if the Fire is taken to somewhere that has open WiFi or if your children take it to a friend's house and connect there.

Posted on 29 Nov 2013 21:02:02 GMT
A. Bradley says:
Thanks Denis - they'll mostly be using it at home, so for now I don't think that would be a problem (but clearly I know nothing, so no doubt their knowledge will overtake mine pretty soon!)

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 22:52:56 GMT
CBRetriever says:
I speak the President's English (actually we Americans aren't presumptuous enogh to call it that, we just call it English and call your version English English and then there's Spanglish, be I'm not going to go there)

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 23:06:48 GMT
How many Queens whose English should we speak? There is a choice of English, French, Flemish and Spanish with just Henry VIII. Then there is German, Greek, Gaelic and Dutch for others.
Go on, give us a clue...

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Nov 2013 23:58:29 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Nov 2013 00:01:13 GMT
Brian says:
Our version is English, the one and only , CB.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Nov 2013 06:23:32 GMT
Denis Powell says:
And where I live there's Wenglish. ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Nov 2013 09:04:34 GMT
Ah, you're sticking to the Complete Ballcocks version of English I see. Good move. You know where you are with that.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Nov 2013 09:52:42 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 30 Nov 2013 10:48:15 GMT
CBRetriever says:
could be worse - the amazon.com forums are full of english as a second language posts (or maybe the posters have used a translation program?)
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