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Can too many books slow a kindle down?

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Initial post: 20 Sep 2012 08:42:10 BDT
A. Reviewer says:
I've had my touch for a month and have been on a bit of a downloading frenzy lately. At present i have amassed a collection of 424 books on my kindles including samples and 11 in my archive.

However I've been noticing that everytime I try and add a book to a collection it takes twice as long as it used to do this and often seems to hang for about 20-30 seconds each time which it definitely did not do before. Given that the touch is supposed to be able to hold 3,000 books I shouldnt have to think that I have too many books should I?

has your kindle slowed down after use? I took out the three year insurance after I bought it but I didn't expect any performance issues after only a month!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 08:49:27 BDT
Suze says:
I don't keep that many books on mine, but I wouldn't have thought less than 500 would cause a problem. I've had this occasionally but it's only if I've downloaded quite a few books at once and they're busy indexing. I've learned now to let the books index before I try to do anything else.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 09:23:46 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Sep 2012 09:24:17 BDT
@AR: My car can carry 5 people and their luggage - there is a cost in terms of fuel and speed. Same for the Kindle. The more you ask of it, the more it has to think about it.

At 3,000 books my Kindle is very similar to a brick. You will be able to read it, just not now. With lots of collections that slow down becomes a crawl.

Same machine with 30 books is outrunning F1 race cars and can leap to your desired page faster than you can think of it.

Keep you books in your archive;
Download you new books to your Kindle for pc app by default;
Delete read books from your Kindle.

It's your toy so use it as you wish, but why make life hard for yourself and for it?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 09:45:21 BDT
Frenchie says:
Hello A., do not keep the book on your Homepage but put them in the Archives. I have learned here that books in the Archives do not take storage space. But on the Homepage, they do. But the Touch can take more books than the K4, so I would think that 424 books are not the problem. Try Customer Services, they may be able to tell you why, unless it is your Wifi connection that is a bit slow?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 09:48:20 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Sep 2012 09:51:00 BDT
Denis Powell says:
I have 1,756 books on my Touch and it works fine. I just put my current book into my "Read Again" collection and while it wasn't instantaneous it was quite speedy and each stage took no more than a second or two to complete.

The usual reason for slowness, and it happens to me quite regularly, is indexing. Every time you add a book the Kindle notes the location of all significant words (ignoring words like, a, the, in, by etc.) and that can take minutes for each book, the longer the book the longer it takes. 10 books may take a half hour or more. If your Kindle is now always slow to respond you might have a book stuck in the indexing system.

The easiest way to check is to go to your home page, tap the search box and enter a non existant word like xvrzrzf and then tap go. In a second or so you should get a new screen saying "No Results Returned". If it says that you have books still indexing and you haven't downloaded one very recently then that's your problem identified. You can then delete any of the books that are yet to complete indexing and download them one at a time from your Archive. If one continually gets stuck you can report it to Amazon Customer Services and get the price refunded. If it's been purchased within the last 7 days you can simply go to Manage Your Kindle, locate the book, click on "Actions" and get an automatic refund. Buying it again may then solve the problem.

Edited to add, books like the Bible or complete collections of a major author like Dickens can take many hours to index.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 09:53:39 BDT
Frenchie says:
Thank you Denis, I did not know any of this (even though I kind of like my Touch now, I still prefer the K4).

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 10:10:07 BDT
S O says:
I had about 1000 books on my Touch at one point with absolutely no lag or "hanging" at all. Yours might be indexing. Leave it alone for a bit, or at least don't throw too many tasks at once at it, and see if it gets better.

Failing that you can hold the bottom power button for 20 seconds. The LED will flash green after 7 seconds, but keep pressing. Then release, and press again. And then be patient while it does its thing :) This will restart the kindle and should clear things up

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 10:21:33 BDT
S. Reason says:
I don't thinkb so personally. If its advertised as being able to store a certain amount, then it should do so without any detrement to the performance of the device. I have about 800 on my K4 and it is still as fast as it ever has been.

It also only takes seconds to index a book, I often do the random search thing to see if it is still indexing after I've downloaded a few books, and its pretty much always finished by that time.

Posted on 20 Sep 2012 10:48:31 BDT
Bluestocking says:
It's funny you should say that, A Reviewer, but for the last few weeks my Kindle is running very slowly. When I press on Home it chunters away for seconds before getting there. I will try archiving the 100 books I have read and see if that helps. I suppose I have about 350 in all.

Posted on 20 Sep 2012 11:13:31 BDT
Bluestocking says:
Looking to archive some books - can you archive a whole collection? What does the 'Delete Collection' do? Just delete the name, which is 'Read' in my case, or delete the books (90), or archive them

If not, and you do it one by one, does Remove from Device get rid of it completely or archive it?

I am reluctant to do anything until I know.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 11:32:29 BDT
Denis Powell says:
When you delete a Collection it doesn't delete the books. From the Kindle itself that has to be done one at a time. When you Delete or "Move to archive" the book file itself is deleted and only the title of the book is listed in the Archive on the device. The book will remain in your Amazon Account until you delete it from Manage Your Kindle. Doing that, however, means that if you ever want to read it again you'll have to buy a new copy.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 11:45:27 BDT
Bluestocking says:
OK, thanks, that's helpful. I don't seem to have an option ' Move to archive' when I right click the book, there is only, at the bottom of the list Remove from device.

I've done one and I will check if it's archived just to set my mind at rest.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 11:52:28 BDT
Denis Powell says:
Bluestocking, I think the "Move to Archive" option is only on the Touch but it does exactly the same as the "Remove from Device" option on the KK. It's not possible to remove a book from your account using the device unless you use the browser to go to Manage Your Kindle.

Of course, if it's a book you didn't buy from Amazon Deleting will be the only option you'll get unless you have that book stored in the Amazon Cloud, in which case it will be treated the same as any Amazon purchased book.

Posted on 20 Sep 2012 11:56:22 BDT
Bluestocking says:
Yes, I've found that on my keyboard Kindle I have to turn on Wifi and then go to Menu and you can check that the things you've deleted are in the Archive. And they are!! Whew!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 12:02:49 BDT
Kelp Bed says:
Are you running the latest version update on your Kindle Keyboard?

Posted on 20 Sep 2012 12:21:39 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Sep 2012 12:24:44 BDT
Bluestocking says:
Ah. no - I have 3.3. Do I have to download it via my computer or can it be done on the Kindle itself?

Posted on 20 Sep 2012 12:34:54 BDT
Bluestocking says:
I've tried to download the 3.4 to my computer but it tries to open it with VLC and says there is no compatible programme associated with it!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 12:39:14 BDT
Kelp Bed says:
Yes via your computer. Are you downloading the right one that is compatible with the serial No. of your Kindle..

Posted on 20 Sep 2012 12:41:18 BDT
Bluestocking says:
Yes, B008 but for some reason it comes down with the VLC 'cone' on it.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 12:49:27 BDT
S O says:
You need to put that file on your Kindle, and then go to Menu > Settings > Menu and hit "update".

Drag and drop the file directly onto the kindle, not into a folder or anything

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 12:49:58 BDT
Kelp Bed says:
Try the second one down in the "troubleshooting" guide, on the above link...

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 12:52:42 BDT
Brian says:
Yes , it'll go from slow to dead slow to crashed. Amazon stores all your book's in archives, so you only need a few at a time downloaded to your kindle.

Posted on 20 Sep 2012 13:02:04 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Sep 2012 13:14:46 BDT
Bluestocking says:
Well, I've been all through the 'Contact us' section and when I put in my queries it says that the latest softward for Kindle Keyboard Wifi only is 3.3.

Edit: But that's confusing because in other parts it says there is a 3.4 for Kindle Keyboard. Perhaps it just meant mine was at 3.3!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 13:34:30 BDT
Bluestocking says:
Yes, DL, I think you're right. I've got to that limit so I'm busy archiving them - one by one!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Sep 2012 13:49:33 BDT
Brian says:
Yes, tedious isn't it? I do wish Amazon would let us delete in bulk. I start doing a few, and then get fed up.
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