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Initial post: 10 Feb 2014 16:50:23 GMT
tenaki says:
BBC Sport for instance, you can't watch streaming videos, and box comes up with something about experimental streaming or something but it always fails.

And on the apps companies seem to be skipping making them for Kindles for example the virgin media anywhere app

Any information on upgrades to the KFire as I am thinking it might be time to get a proper tablet. Its great for reading but I was hoping for a bit more

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 08:15:07 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Feb 2014 08:19:37 GMT
AKC says:
I wish I had opted for the Nexus instead of the Kindle Fire. It is so locked to amazon and as you have pointed out, the apps are not forthcoming. Since the fire is running Android, I don't think it's the developers who are not making apps run on it. I think it's amazon not including them in their app store. I don't like having audio books and Kindle books locked down to the fire's app either, as they don't seem to release updates to the old fire. Certainly buyer's remorse here. What is the point of such a good hardware spec if you can't put decent software in it?

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 08:28:59 GMT
I think if one "invests" in a substantial purchase then that investment should be repaid. It seems (to me) that tablets really are cutting edge disposable ephemeral items not intended to be investments at all. They are supposed to be chewing gum consumables updated regularly meeting the specific needs of the user that week or day of purchase.

If the Fire (or any tablet) was good for you at the time of purchase but your needs or the market or technology has marched on then throw it and adopt the next version.

Don't get me wrong, this seems wrong, sick, twisted, evil and a damning insight into the pit the consumer environment has dragged us to - but ignoring the issue is not that helpful.

Either support the Snapshot consumerism movement and buy stuff that lasts until you open the packaging or say "whoa there Silver!" and demand supported stuff that will last longer than a teenagers crush.

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 13:00:27 GMT
David says:
I was not really sure what to get, the hype for the Kindle Fire HD, swallowed me in, ok, you could say its my fault for not doing my homework, but, there are so many apps out there, legitimate ones, Sky Go for instance, Gopro Apps, the amount of things i wanted to put on my kindle, yet they dont allow me to do so, its so locked to amazon, its a joke, i wish i knew this before buying it, damn myself for not listening to my son, who said get a Nexus 7, really wish i did now, Amazon need to realise, they are not the be all and end all, and perhaps if they updated it to "unlock" it from Amazon, they may even sell more.

its ok to say move on, but if the Kindle was allowed to be used as a proper tablet, you really wouldnt need to buy another, its specs are pretty reasonable, just the locking to amazon that holds it back.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Feb 2014 13:11:50 GMT
Damaskcat says:
You can load apps from other places - just not the Google play store.

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 13:25:12 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Feb 2014 13:25:45 GMT
G. Heywood says:
David, even the Nexus 7 have limitations (not as many obviously) but there are apps in the Google app store that only work on specific processor architectures for instance. I used a Nexus 7 for a year or so and found it be to be a good tablet overall though.

At the end of the day though, a huge amount of apps are simply replicating functionality that is already available on a decent web-browser, but making it platform propriety and charging you for the privilege. Still annoying when there is that one app that you want that isn't available though.

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 13:28:17 GMT
W. Stephens says:
None of the systems are perfect.

I just switched to Apple (Ipad) after a few years of Android because I was frustrated with the variable (and poorly regulated) quality of Android Apps.
Apple is better by far. Fewer free apps, but greater diversity and quality. The only downside is that Apple tries to lock you into their 'eco-system' - i.e. to keep you using and buying only from them.

Amazon/Kindle is trying to do the same - restrict you to purchasing from them. But they don't seem to understand that restricting you to a limited version of Android (and range of apps) isn't sufficient.

Kindle is fine if your primary purpose is reading, and you are prepared to be restricted to Amazon for purchases. Otherwise, I really don't understand why anyone would buy a Kindle. But Amazon have been very clever with their marketing, and not mentioning all of the limitations ;-)

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 13:32:01 GMT
G. Heywood says:
...And I switched from Apple to Android.. then on to Windows.

Pluses and minuses to each one.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Feb 2014 13:34:29 GMT
Damaskcat says:
Personally I wouldn't buy a Fire for reading books - or any other tablet for that matter.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Feb 2014 15:13:20 GMT
Apple monitor and at least perform a quality check on all apps. The operating system is locked, unlike android.
The demographic of the iPad user is very different to a Fire user and wouldn't tolerate poor or nasty apps - money talks.
As apple use a different operating system, of course you are locked into it.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Feb 2014 15:18:37 GMT
Money talks. Perhaps apps don't make money on what is becoming, if not become, an almost obsolete operating system. It isn't worth the foort of writing one.
It is nice to think that Amazon are blocking apps, it's a cosy blame game, but as Amazon want to make money and sell you things it does seem to be a somewhat perverse business strategy to not sell as many apps as they can.

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 15:20:00 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Feb 2014 15:20:12 GMT
G. Heywood says:
Are you suggesting that Android is becoming an obsolete OS or did I misread that?

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 15:20:55 GMT
As GH says, many apps are simply a flash free version of their website and as many are relatively new, is their absence really that important - in that the app didn't exist when you bought the tablet.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Feb 2014 19:49:20 GMT
Denis Powell says:
W. Stephens, I buy many of my ebooks from sites other than Amazon but still Amazon allows me to store those books in the Amazon Cloud to make them easy to download to any device. I also have a number of apps, such as Google Earth, Google Maps and Chrome by installing them from other app stores, which the Fires allow you to do. I'm also able to listen to music and and audio books purchased elsewhere.

I have the Zinio app installed, giving me access to magazines not available through Newsstand and I can borrow ebooks from my local library using my Fire.

I'm not saying there aren't restrictions when using a Kindle but I don't find them particularly bothersome but I particularly like the integration with the Amazon cloud for Amazon media.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Feb 2014 20:03:26 GMT
You misread it. The early Fire uses version 3 is it? An obsolete version. Whilst v 3 (cauliflower cheese?) is still operational I doubt if anyone will write an app for it. Nor for anything other than the latest iteration.

Posted on 11 Feb 2014 21:48:19 GMT
G. Heywood says:
Ah OK, that makes sense!
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