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Initial post: 10 Nov 2012 00:58:49 GMT
Last edited by the author on 10 Nov 2012 01:02:51 GMT
Cara says:
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I was considering buying this new kindle because of the lending library offered on amazon prime. I was shocked to read the terms and conditions to discover you only get one book per month. My daughter already has a kobo and regularly gets ebook s from welsh library on line. However you have to side load these from PC. Authors get decent royalties from state library. Thought amazon prime was the answer but now reading amazon info not so sure. It's well documented that you can only read books from amazon on kindle in uk so you can't borrow state library ebooks in uk. You don't even own books you buy for kindle . Maybe nook glo or kobo glo way to go. When is Sony next ereader out?

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 01:11:10 GMT
@Cara: You don't "own" digital media from any of the ereader sellers. The same as you don't own the "words" in a book. This is true for Amazon, WH Smith, B&N, Waterstone, etc. etc.

There are books out there with unlimited use licences and open licences ~ meaning you can copy and pass them around as long as you maintain the copyright statement in the ebook.

If you want a Nook or a Kobo or a Sony or any of the other ereaders then check out the hardware price and then test your top 10 books to see if they are comparable. Include access to library books if/as it's available. Then make an informed buying decision and enjoy the product.
It is an evolving market, so what's true today may not be so tomorrow. Best wishes, CW.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 01:16:45 GMT
Caain says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 01:17:08 GMT
A. Dietz says:
Cara, Amazon Prime is mostly a free shipping program. The Kindle Owners' Lending Library is an additional perk to that program, it is not intended to be the main feature. Amazon pays a royalty for each book you borrow. It doesn't make sense to get Prime just for the lending library if you're not going to use the shipping feature. There are also thousands of free books on amazon.co.uk if you look for them.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 01:33:41 GMT
Caain says:
I agree. I have "Prime" and am considering renewing. Yes, I have received excellent service via Prime ( to date, yesterday) but I would not consider buying into Prime just for the sake of a free ebook per month as per sei.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 07:57:59 GMT
Last edited by the author on 10 Nov 2012 07:58:44 GMT
Lucy Lou says:
It is NOT well documented that you can only read Amazon books on Kindle because that is not true at all. As long as the book is in a format that the Kindle can read it will take any. It is quite clear that you have taken advice from people who don't know.

As for the library issue, well, if buying a Kindle is so that you can take advantage of free books then there are hundreds of thousands of free books here as well as on other websites.

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/free
http://www.gutenberg.org/
http://www.free-ebooks.net/
http://www.openculture.com/free_ebooks

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 08:07:38 GMT
Damaskcat says:
Cara wrote: ''It's well documented that you can only read books from amazon on kindle''
It may be well documented but it isn't true!! You can get e-books which are compatible with the Kindle from many other web sites - both free and paid for. What you can't do is borrow library books - except for through the Prime library - which as you say is restricted to one book a month. The only places you can't buy Kindle e-books for Kindle from are those web sites which only sell epub format with DRM - i.e W H Smiths or Waterstones. Most e-book web sites offer e-books in many different formats.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 08:13:52 GMT
Suze says:
I don't think about library books with the Kindle. We get so many free books everyday it negates the need of a library for me.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 08:18:17 GMT
Damaskcat says:
That's how I look at it, Suze :-) I've read some excellent free books recently.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 08:20:34 GMT
Suze says:
I suspect a lot of people who don't already own kindles don't realise just how many free books there are every day. We certainly get a lot more than they do with other makes of ereader as well as better customer service.

Posted on 10 Nov 2012 10:09:32 GMT
Last edited by the author on 10 Nov 2012 10:35:08 GMT
Cara says:
Thanks for your advise. I use kindle on my iPad so I am well aware of the free books available. I can see new books are introduced all the time, but I still find I can't find the kind of books I want. I then buy them and get frustrated I can't read them on my aikido app or any other device that doesn't run the kindle app. British libraries generally rent in the ePub format or occasionally the adobe text format. But never the format the kindle uses. I convert other ebooks I've bought over the years palm format etc via calibre but the only format it won't convert is the format kindle uses. Hence it seems , unless i'm mistaken Sticking books bought from amazon to kindle apps and devices. It's a Shame the kindle won't read ePub books. Is there a device apart from the kindle that I can read books bought from amazon on. In an ideal world I'd buy a kindle with backlight and 3G so I can buy books worldwide easily and I could read ePub books on it sold perhaps from my local amazing independent book store. I'd be very happy to get a 'Netflix ' or 'love film streaming' kind of contract for books that I don't need to keep. Any ideas?

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 10:15:19 GMT
Last edited by the author on 3 Mar 2014 08:16:15 GMT
Damaskcat says:
Any device to which you can download the free apps will read Kindle books.

There is no other e-ink e-reader which will read Kindle books bought from Amazon.

As far as I am aware there is no system which will allow you to 'stream' books. You don't have to keep the books you buy on any device - just delete them when read.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 10:24:58 GMT
Denis Powell says:
Cara, I don't think you'll find an e-ink eReader other than a Kindle that will enable you to read ebooks from Amazon, but there are Kindle reading apps available for, probably, all tablet devices.

I have the Alkido app on my Fire so am able to read some books in ePub format (without DRM) as well as all the ebooks from Amazon.

Posted on 11 Nov 2012 00:02:56 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Nov 2012 00:09:39 GMT
Cara says:
Many thanks again for all your help everyone. Clearly the answer for me is an android type device (so i can load both Alkido and amazon kindle apps ) with e-ink, 3G, 'glo' type light and the long charge of kindle ereader. Maybe this will be available by my next birthday :) ??????toes crossed!!! At least now I understand the kindle better.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Nov 2012 01:27:17 GMT
A. Dietz says:
Cara, you won't find an android e-ink reader any time in the near future, the technologies are not compatible.

Posted on 11 Nov 2012 01:52:00 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Nov 2012 21:52:50 GMT
Cara says:
:( thanks for letting me know , ok toes crossed amazon soon allows kindles to 'read' ePub adobe text etc...I do worry that the way things are going with state libraries that if we don't use them we'll lose them. Librarian at local library told me today councils have legal obligation to provide libraries but they are ignoring this ...simply no money available councils have told libraries. I strongly want to continue renting ebooks from state library, there is no way I could afford to purchase all the books my three bookworms (children) get through and rely on the libraries both physical and online library.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Nov 2012 06:32:14 GMT
Denis Powell says:
Cara, my County Library service doesn't, itself, have an ebook service but will register Library members with "eBooks for Wales". This service provides up to 4 ebooks at a time for up to 21 days, but only in ePub format and using "Aldiko" instead of "Overdrive" and requires an Adobe password.

I have successfully installed the app on my Fire HD, registered it to my Adobe account and am borrowing eBooks successfully.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Nov 2012 07:53:12 GMT
Suze says:
Cara, what kind of phone do you have. You could download the kindle and other ebook apps to it and have the best of both worlds as long as your screen is big enough to read. It would be a shame not to have the kindle app because there are so many free books available every day you wouldn't need to pay for a book again if you didn't want to.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Nov 2012 08:05:20 GMT
C says:
I didn't know the Bookdepository did free books for kindle.
I used to buy the majority of my books from them pre kindle. Going over to check it out. Many thanks.

Posted on 11 Nov 2012 20:02:33 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Nov 2012 20:03:18 GMT
Cara says:
Yes ebooks for Wales amazing service. It's actually better than 4 books per 21 days. 21 days max time for loan, you can just rent from 1 day allowing in theory 84 books in 21. Obviously you're not going to get through that many, but enough to say a couple of years ago my 11 yr old read all Harry potter series in 10 days over Christmas, she speed reads constantly. We've banned books & ereaders at certain times of day for every family member. Interesting about book depository can you let us know how you get on Kaska.
I have dell streak phone which I do read books on but get headache after a while, hence think e-ink good option (I've tried my daughters kobo and more comfortable read). Don't suppose it helps the screen is cracked on my phone.
Still not decided ...kobo glo, Nook Glo , Kindle glo type with 3G ?
Different benefits from each...decisions , decisions.

Read article in guardian money yesterday that John Lewis ( only company to sell nook in uk I found so far) paid £34.6 m of tax on the £144.5m it made in profit in first half of 2012. Apparently in three years amazon amassed £7bn in uk sales and paid no corporation tax on any of the profits from that income. Entirely legal tax avoidance. Not new news but article was interesting considering Christmas shopping around the corner. know I should listen to my conscience ...will sleep on final decision. Amazon I agree is so easy and customer service excellent but at what cost? Big delivery depot in Swansea does provide thousands of local jobs this is whole new discussion . :)

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Mar 2014 23:13:03 GMT
morelenmir says:
I agree entirely Cara! One book per month is ridiculous. At first I thought it was one BORROW per month; so, say you could borrow a book, return it and then borrow a second within the same month. NOT the case however and I even wonder what the point of the 'return' option is given this situation. I actually wonder what the entire borrow point is with only one title a month.

I will say however I think you have been a little misled somewhere. You can indeed read any mobi/prc on a kindle and convert most epub into mobi using either KindleGen or KindlePreviewer. All you have to do is copy the resulting file to the kindle's internal flash drive via USB. Project Guttenburg is an amazing site for such texts and I highly recommend - a good way to get your child interested in the classics perhaps?

The only caveat to this is if you copy a generic mobi to your kindle you won't get things like your current position synchronized across devices, which is a very handy feature but not too big of a hassle given the 'location' data you get with each page.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2014 08:18:34 GMT
Damaskcat says:
As regards your last paragraph - of you e-mail books etc to your Kindle then they will behave exactly like books downloaded from the Amazon site and it will synchronise with the furthest page read across devices.
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