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When will Amazon allow electronic downloads of books I have already bought in hard copy


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In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:32:32 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:34:51 BDT
One might as well say that Amazon should give away digital copies of CDs people have bought from Amazon, digital copies of films they have bought, reduced price copies of paperbacks when they have bought the hardback already... I suppose you'd also like them to provide cheaper CDs when someone buys a vinyl? Or if I buy a car, then a few years later the manufacturer brings out a new version of that car and I expect to be given the car for free or for a reduced price. It's ridiculous.

It's no more "fair" to give the owner of a treebook a free copy of the ebook than if we demanded that having purchased a copy of the ebook should make the purchaser eligible to a cheap copy of the treebook.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:35:05 BDT
Damaskcat says:
Oracle - I was beginning to think I was going mad there for a minute! I've seen publishers' submission guidelines which say they are happy to accept MSS in Word. :-)

Posted on 4 Apr 2012 15:35:58 BDT
frannbug says:
I bought them from a company overseas, unfortunately. When I emailed them to explain my error, they ignored my email. Not much else I could do - except never buy from that company again, which I probably won't do as I like their books.

Posted on 4 Apr 2012 15:36:04 BDT
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Posted on 4 Apr 2012 15:36:24 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 Apr 2012 15:38:42 BDT
ChrisJ says:
Frannbug: What makes you think that Amazon has anything to do with the prices of an ebook?

In many cases the prices are set by the publishers / authors / distributors and not by Amazon.

What happens if I bought my hardback version from Waterstones, and then bought the same ebook from Amazon? Who would give me the discount? Not Amazon, as they haven't taken any of my money for that book in the past.
As it happens, it is often Amazon I have bought from... why? Because they are the cheapest. Why, when they are the cheapest anyway, should they give me a further discount?

AND if you say "they can put their prices up", that wouldn't work: If they are not the cheapest (*), then I wouldn't have bought from them in the first place.

(*)Not fully true! I also buy for value, quality, speed of availability, ease of use and searching, delivery to me rather than having to travel to get it etc.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:36:44 BDT
I don't think you've thus far managed to prove that you're not "paying for what you're buying" when you're buying an ebook...

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:38:12 BDT
Oracle says:
Actually, Amazon is going beyond the call of duty as the distance selling regs don't automatically apply to digital products due to the fact that they can't physically be returned.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:40:11 BDT
So basically, that's a fault of the company - it isn't a fault of the format is it? It really doesn't add to your argument in anyway. You made a mistake - not the fault of the format. The company failed to conform to distance trading rules - not the fault of the format. I'm sorry, but that's not relevant at all to the argument.

Posted on 4 Apr 2012 15:40:33 BDT
frannbug says:
OK, I could argue all day but I've run out of time and you're probably all right and I'm probably absolutely horrifically wrong (we'll see). I didn't realise I'd entered into an argument all on my own!
Thanks for the chance to exercise my brain - I'm off to do some work!

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:41:03 BDT
Ahhh right - well way to go Amazon in that case.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 15:43:01 BDT
Damaskcat says:
You ARE wrong - sorry!!

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 16:48:37 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 Apr 2012 16:51:36 BDT
Denis Powell says:
frannbug, your idea wouldn't be possible for all books as, quite often, the eBook is published by someone other than the paper book. Think the Harry Potter books as a typical example.

A great deal of effort and money is often put into a book before it reaches it's publication date and when the book appears the publisher distributes those costs over all versions, Hardback, paperback and eBook. As others have pointed out a typical mass market paperback can often be printed and distributed for around 30p but if the publisher were to say "Buy a Hardback and get the paperback for 50p" he would have to increase the Hardback price to achieve the required income.

If you produce a book in Hardback, Paperback and eBook format and you expect to sell, say, 20 Hardbacks, 60 Paperbacks and 20 ebooks and need to make 200 to break even you could charge 3 for the Hardbacks which will bring in 60, 2 for the paperbacks which will bring in 120 and 1 for each eBook which would bring in a further 20. If you decide to give away the ebook with every Hardback you'd have to increase the price of those from 3 to 4 to cover the costs, unless you think you're still going to sell 20 ebooks. You have to convince the publisher that giving away ebooks won't impact ebook purchases.

Of course, if you want to bring fairness to the argument why shouldn't I get a free paperback with my eBook if you get a free eBook with your paper book? Of course I'm going to sell my nice new paperback which I have no use for which, in turn, may well lead to a lost paperback sale.

It's quite complicated when you start to take all possibilities into account and I suspect most Publishers feel there are variables enough already without adding to them.

Of course, there are already some excellent eBook deals available, from free classics to Amazon's daily deals. I think we're already well served and my current reading list of 10 titles cost me 34.91 whereas the paperbacks would have cost me 78.21. I'm not sure that if I tried to sell those 10 paperbacks I'd get back the extra 43 they would have cost in order to get the ebooks free.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 16:50:40 BDT
Brian says:
My wife was right then, R

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 16:52:41 BDT
Maria says:
Isn't she ALWAYS, B. ?!

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 16:56:15 BDT
Brian says:
Of course she is , mate

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2012 22:28:13 BDT
Shirtybird says:
Don't forget Master Bates and Roger the Cabin Boy ;-)

Posted on 4 Apr 2012 23:36:33 BDT
A customer says:
12 pages!?...has anyone been bullied yet?

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 10:26:40 BDT
chunk says:
Of course no one should expect digital and hardcopy for a low price. But If i buy a digital book i should be able to download that book in the same way i can download a pdf document and read it on whatever device i want. I am sick of this business model that locks users to one device that seems to be spreading from apple to everywhere else.

Posted on 30 Apr 2012 10:27:38 BDT
chunk says:
Of course no one should expect digital and hardcopy for a low price. But If i buy a digital book i should be able to download that book in the same way i can download a pdf document and read it on whatever device i want. I am sick of this business model that locks users to one device that seems to be spreading from apple to everywhere else.

Posted on 30 Apr 2012 10:30:46 BDT
L Brasi says:
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