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Initial post: 30 Apr 2012 14:57:29 BDT
BookWorm says:
Adult Picture Book - Sashi is a Teenage Indian Immigrant with a HUGE Hairy Pussy!

When doing a search for "Baby Steps" the results were a little surprising! Why do Amazon carry these titles?

Posted on 30 Apr 2012 15:01:58 BDT
CBRetriever says:
don't search on teachers is all I have to say

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 15:21:21 BDT
Damaskcat says:
They carry the titles because there is a demand for them and they're not in the business of censorship. I find some of them pretty revolting myself but I don't see that as a reason for Amazon not to stock them.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 15:27:46 BDT
BookWorm says:
How about not stocking them due to decency? If my child was doing a search for "pussy cat" I wouldn't want her to see results like this.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 15:35:11 BDT
Damaskcat says:
Then it is up to you to check what your daughter is doing on the computer. Amazon make it clear that this is a site for adults to use and if children do use it then it should be with parental supervision.

I cannot - and would not want to - decide what other people should read. Provided the books don't fall foul of the law then I would say they should be sold on Amazon - and I believe that is how Amazon look at it too.

My personal opinion is that many of the titles - let alone the contents of the books - are obscene and I really don't want to have anything to do with them. I am no prude and have had a very varied and interesting life but some of what is published today is completely revolting and disgusting to me. But we're not talking personal opinion here we're talking about what is allowable under the law.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 15:46:01 BDT
BookWorm says:
I agree with you about censorship and people should be allowed to read whatever they like, having said that, it would be nice to see Amazon (and other companies like them) not supporting this kind of "writing" and leaving it to the more specialist store. But I guess a sale is a sale and that's the overiding priority here.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 15:53:07 BDT
Damaskcat says:
Well as they're in business to make money - yes - a sale is a sale. Naturally the only way they're going to make money is by selling what customers want to buy.

Posted on 30 Apr 2012 15:59:19 BDT
MS says:
"CLICK TO LOOK INSIDE" now that brings a whole new meaning.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 16:00:12 BDT
BookWorm says:

Posted on 30 Apr 2012 16:27:57 BDT
I suggest we reserve judgement - she may really have a large cat as a pet.

Posted on 30 Apr 2012 17:37:52 BDT
CBRetriever says:
the best way to avoid them is to drill down, in your daughter's case children's books, to a level where you won't get that kind of book in your search

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 17:48:14 BDT
Willber G says:
I agree with all these points.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 17:56:56 BDT
Brian says:
That's not true of Amazon , when it comes to some of our harmless , little postings though?

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 17:58:23 BDT
Brian says:
The titles are awful , but some of the covers are lovely.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 17:59:40 BDT
Brian says:

Posted on 30 Apr 2012 19:06:10 BDT
Deeky24 says:
I think if you're offended by a book you are within your rights to tell Amazon about it. But it's up to them what action they take - if any. I imagine if 100 customers decided to boycott Amazon rather than risk seeing titles like that in a search then Amazon might decide it's not worth the loss of sales, and remove that title.

I remember a good while back that there was a kindle book about tips and techniques to be a pedophile - after hitting the news and a lot of complaints Amazon removed the title from sale. Part of me is against censorship.....but some things need censoring.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Apr 2012 19:22:57 BDT
Maria says:
As long as Amazon obey the law we can only request that certain titles are removed & they are not obliged to do so. The one that was removed must've been either illegal or too close to being illegal to be worth the controversy over selling it. Therefore a business decision by a business company. Enough customers complain a company will change in order to retain its market share. Parents need to remember that the internet is not children's t.v.!

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 08:33:37 BDT
Damaskcat says:
The posts deleted are not harmless - that's the difference. In any case they can set what rules they like for forums.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 08:37:12 BDT
Damaskcat says:
I think that book was removed because it was advocating criminal behaviour which meant it was breaking the law anyway.

I think if they started removing books because people said they would shop elsewhere they would be making a serious mistake. Where would you stop? Some people don't like books about religion, pagan beliefs, witchcraft etc - where do you draw the line? The vocal minority could get anything banned simply by complaining.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 09:31:53 BDT
Indeed - it's a slippery slope once you start going down that road. What if some people didn't like books that criticised the government? or the EU? or the USA? Where do you stop? There's an awful lot of that sort of censorship in the US, and vocal minorities have got books banned in school libraries as "porn" when they really aren't. It can get quite ridiculous.

I find books like that deeply distasteful, and I wish Amazon would keep a closer track on what they are listed as. I assume it's because kinlib and other Kindle-book-finding sites started not listing erotica as the default - a good few books are now posted under headings that are inappropriate to put it mildly. I remember seeing a book where even the title was extremely explicit, and it was labelled as romance... If Amazon would keep a closer track on that it would make it easier to steer clear of them.

Personally, I find them deeply distasteful, but then I find a lot of the "misery memoir" type books distasteful too, not to mention some of the horror books out there. It worries me sometimes what people will read for pleasure...

But in a world where people actually go and see the "Saw" movies as entertainment, an Indian girl's large hairy pussy seems relatively harmless... (Unless of course it's actually a damn great lion, in which case it's probably quite dangerous, but in a different way...)

Posted on 1 May 2012 09:34:28 BDT
CBRetriever says:
one of the most banned books in the US is To Kill a Mockingbird (also Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn - they're even created bowdlerised versions of them for the general public)

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 09:37:20 BDT
Brian says:
How do we know they're not harmless- we can't see 'em. Amazon seem to move the goalposts when it comes to products: anything goes as long as it's got a price tag.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 14:55:58 BDT
Damaskcat says:
Brian - Amazon operate different rules for products than they do for comments on forums. Is that really so difficult to understand?

In reply to an earlier post on 1 May 2012 14:59:54 BDT
Damaskcat says:
I think you're right about the categorisation - though I'm sure it would take a lot of people to check whether the categories had been correctly allocated by the publisher/author. I can't see why anyone would want to incorrectly classify erotica since surely if that's what people want then that's what they'll look for. I would worry about the state of someone's mind if they could equate a book with a very explicit title with romance when the book is likely to be the antithesis of romance!

Posted on 1 May 2012 15:08:40 BDT
one persons art is another persons porn.some of the carvings on ancient sites are classed as art but if they were in a book they might be classed as porn.btw I don't read or watch porn.
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