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Initial post: 3 Oct 2011 11:11:59 BDT
Dr Evil says:
I live in the UK and I really want to get the new Kindle Fire but on the .co.uk site there is nothing on this amazing product and the .com site doesn't deliver it outside of the US.

Does anyone know when (and if) the Kindle Fire will be available in UK?

Thank you :-)

Posted on 3 Oct 2011 11:35:06 BDT
J. H says:
No, but it won't be before Christmas.

amazon never announce things until they are ready to do so.

Posted on 3 Oct 2011 12:01:04 BDT
I can't see that Amazon will release it in the UK until they have deals in place with all their media suppliers. They're almost certainly selling these at a loss and hence rely on the content to turn a profit.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 12:13:13 BDT
Denis Powell says:
KM, the Fire is a media device primarily intended for playing movies, music and reading ebooks, but it isn't a tablet in many ways. As a result it relies heavily on the Amazon Cloud for storing your purchases, and their Prime movie streaming service. Not only do we not have the streaming service here, we don't have full access to the Cloud either so the Fire's use would be limited for the time being. Even US buyers are being warned that at present they won't get full use from it while travelling abroad.

I think we'll know it's getting close to a UK release when Amazon change the website to provide the media for it. I think it's copyright issues that are holding it up at the moment and who knows how long it will take to get them sorted.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 12:14:50 BDT
Damaskcat says:
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Posted on 3 Oct 2011 12:17:45 BDT
You are such a rude person Damaskcat. Please read this article:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/30/amazon_kindle_fire_bill_of_materials/

Posted on 3 Oct 2011 12:20:19 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 12:20:33 BDT
DaveyH says:
And that, like almost everything else written about the Fire on the 'net, is pure conjecture - definitely not proof!

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 12:23:56 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 12:25:16 BDT
Denis Powell says:
J A Paffett, the "register" article contains a level of guesswork as Amazon won't give any details of purchases or sales, but the Kindle VP had an interestingly worded reply when asked the question:

Q: With the comparatively low price, will you lose money on the device and make it up on services?
A: That's not how we look at our business. ... We need to try to make money off both devices and services and do that in a way that's sustainable. That's what we owe to our shareholders and we continue to do it.

So, I read that to mean they're simply not saying, as the expression "need to try" doesn't mean that they have priced it to succeed, but we'll never know. It's just not possible for anyone outside of Amazon to state the situation categorically one way or the other.

Posted on 3 Oct 2011 12:26:05 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 12:29:32 BDT
Trying to shave a little off the price?

Posted on 3 Oct 2011 12:31:54 BDT
No, Gillette razors are the classic example of a strategy where you sell the initial product at a loss (the razor) in the hope that you'll make a profit on the consumables (the blades). Printers are a good modern day example.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 12:46:15 BDT
Sorry, I knew that. My comment was an obviously weak attempt at humour.

Posted on 3 Oct 2011 12:47:53 BDT
Sorry Roger, @Damaskcat caused me a temporary sense of humour failure...

Posted on 3 Oct 2011 13:02:08 BDT
DC says:
Conjecture sure. However, the Fire is not dissimilar to the RIM Playbook. Made by the same people to very similar templates designed by Quanta. A few bits'n'bobs have been trimmed for sure but both the Fire and the Playbook sport a dual core 1GHz CPU, for example.

Cost of as Playbook is something like 350. Now, hardly any company in the world can match the markups of Apple on a device, so it would seem reasonable to infer that RIM were not making much more than the 45% on each iPad. So if RIM were making a cool 100% pure profit (which would be unheard of anywhere, probably including Apple!), then we are talking 175 to manufacture.

175 equates to about $275. Amazon could probably scale back specification and induce Quanta to reduce profit in favour of volume to roughly meet the $200 price. Trouble is that no-one is buying the Playbook and RIM won't be making anything near 100% profit and probably nearer to the 0% mark. Therefore, $250 cost to manufacture is a much more believable figure.

In any case it does not really matter either way. Amazon can charge what they like and people can decide to buy it or not. What you do have to consider is if Amazon are selling a dual core 1Ghz device for $200, what bits in an iPad2 make it worth 2.5 times as much?

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 14:23:29 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 3 Oct 2011 15:21:04 BDT
DC says:
:-)
You have to admit they way it lights up, changes colour and spins around is sooo mesmerizing. Worth every penny of the extra couple of hundred quid!

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 11:19:17 BDT
M. Sling says:
Oh, yes, it was theregister who published the story so it must be true. You make me laugh.

Posted on 4 Oct 2011 11:20:48 BDT
M. Sling says:
Every single time something amazing technology wise is released Europe gets much more later on.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 12:22:38 BDT
Damaskcat says:
Speculation - yes - but that's all it is. But why don't we see this sort of speculation about Apple for example?

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 12:23:18 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 12:36:08 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 12:49:30 BDT
Denis Powell says:
If there's any kissing going on I have my lips puckered and ready to go.
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