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Initial post: 27 Apr 2012 15:46:12 BDT
Susan Bryce says:
Kindle, Wi-Fi, 6" E Ink Display

Can I download from Amazon.co.uk and read UK English books even though I am living in Germany? I was told I would have to use Amazon.com and buy US versions of books. Thank you

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 15:47:28 BDT
Sandy M says:
Depends which site you are registered on?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2012 15:48:53 BDT
Last edited by the author on 27 Apr 2012 15:52:46 BDT
Susan Bryce says:
I'm registered on Amazon.co.uk

I would like to buy a Kindle and read UK English books in Germany.

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 15:57:59 BDT
Last edited by the author on 27 Apr 2012 15:58:19 BDT
CBRetriever says:
suggestion: if you already have an amazon account, buy your kindle from amazon.de, but buy it as a gift. It will come unregistered, then you can register it to your amazon.co.uk account. That will work unless you've used the same email to create an amazon.de account (that's where amazon actually would prefer that you shop).

I bought my kindle from amazon.fr using my email, then registered it to amazon.com using my husband's email.

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 16:09:07 BDT
Kat says:
Cunning...

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 16:19:10 BDT
Susan Bryce says:
Thank you! Yes 'cunning' is a good word! I'll get my husband to buy me one (a proper gift - he he) through Amazon.de and then register it myself through Amazon.co.uk.
So happy to hear it's possible because I'm spending a fortune on having books shipped out to Germany.
Thank you again. I really appreciate your help.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2012 16:20:32 BDT
Damaskcat says:
My understanding is that if you do not live in the UK you cannot buy e-books from the UK site.

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 16:29:11 BDT
Susan Bryce says:
This is what it says in Amazon's 'help' area:
Germany
If you are living in Germany you can purchase Kindle, Kindle Keyboard and Kindle Keyboard 3G from Amazon.de. You can purchase Kindle DX from Amazon.com.

Kindle content can be purchased from Amazon.de or Amazon.com.

I guess I need to check if I can buy UK language through Amazon.de.......

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2012 16:29:57 BDT
Damaskcat says:
That's right :-)

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 16:39:05 BDT
J. H says:
Co.uk is meant only for people who live in the UK.

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 16:45:06 BDT
Susan Bryce says:
I've just tried to buy a kindle book from co.uk but it didn't even show the price and also said it wasn't available in my region and to please go to .de
I'm not sure of the reasons why it's not possible to buy from co.uk. I'm guessing it's a technical reason because co.uk are quite happy to post tonnes of books out to me in Germany.
Thank you for everyone's input. Much appreciated. Hope you all have a good weekend.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2012 16:53:19 BDT
J. H says:
Its not technical, its because ebooks can only be sold in certain territories, same as music downloads.

As you do not live in the UK, amazon.co.uk do not have the right to sell you ebooks. Physical books is fine, but not downloads.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Apr 2012 16:54:00 BDT
Last edited by the author on 27 Apr 2012 16:54:45 BDT
Damaskcat says:
It is copyright and the way rights are allocated to different publishers in different geographical areas. The point of sale for digital books is where the purchaser is. The point of sale for paper books is where the retailer is. Amazon in the UK can send paper books anywhere.

EDIT: I get a similar message if I log onto .com and look at Kindle books - it will not let me buy from there.

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 18:26:05 BDT
CBRetriever says:
so register your kindle to amazon.com - there's no extra charge for buying from there

and it's not technical, but a regional licensing issue - you'll find most of the same books on amazon.com anyway> Well, I guess it can be considered technical in a way: Point of sale for tangible items is the country in which the item is sold and then it is shipped to another country whereas point of sale for a kindle book is considered to be your kindle/IP address.

Posted on 27 Apr 2012 19:32:46 BDT
Mia says:
Susan- are you living in Germany as a german national or civilian here? I only ask as I live in Germany too but as part of the HM Forces and I can use amazon.co.uk as part of our overseas agreement. Obviously that means I have a BFPO address which means I am registered as UK not de.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 09:57:49 BDT
Susan Bryce says:
I'm a civilian in Germany so I don't have a BFPO address. (shame!).

I've managed to find the prices of 3 books. As a random example, the first book that come up on .co.uk was Ken Follett - The Key to Rebecca.
Kindle prices:
.co.uk: 0.89 Pounds (paperback is 5.91 plus postage to Germany)
.de: 4.35 Euro (6.30 Euro paperback with free delivery)
.com: 5.75 Dollars (n/a)

You can see why I'd like to download from co.uk (the Amazon I'm already registered too). The price is so much cheaper. The version is in UK English (not sure about .de). Also, it is possible that I won't be living in Germany for ever. It's really frustrating for me, but I understand about the importance and necessity of licensing laws, even though it's making my Kindle purchasing complicated!

However, what about the US licensing laws? How can I buy from .com with no problems?

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 10:03:39 BDT
Last edited by the author on 28 Apr 2012 10:06:00 BDT
Denis Powell says:
Susan, the .com site maintains the records of which digital downloads are available for each country. Generally speaking those ebooks the ,com site can sell to Germany are the same ones available from .de. You'll find you can't buy every ebook that's advertised on the .com site.

Edited to add that there isn't just one price for ebooks from .com. The amount you're charged will vary according to what country you are buying for and if in the US, which state you live in. You won't see the same price as someone living in Australia, for example.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 10:26:29 BDT
Catalpa says:
The fact that you are already buying from co.uk- does this mean you already have a co.uk account presumably with a UK address and payment card? If so doesn't this work in the same way as when you go on holiday and buy from your Kindle? Eg if I take my Kindle to Germany I still buy from my UK account.

Posted on 28 Apr 2012 11:08:07 BDT
Ms. J. Heath says:
Hello everyone,

I live in Spain and bought my Kindle from Amazon.es. I changed my Amazon account so it is registered in the UK and I have had no problems buying books from Amazon.co.uk.

Good luck

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 11:17:23 BDT
Damaskcat says:
You have been lucky so far. Amazon may realise that your IP address is in Spain and make you register your Kindle to the Spanish site and download from there. When I go to the .com site it will not allow me to download e-books from there and redirects me to the UK Kindle store.

Posted on 28 Apr 2012 15:24:31 BDT
CBRetriever says:
I've found both lower and higher prices and books available and unavailable as well. Sometimes I'm upset that the US price is lower than the price I have to pay (kindle is registered as being in France) and other times I cheer because the price I pay is lower. Some books aren't available to me on amazon.com, but then some books I can buy aren't available to US residents.

Over all, it seems to even out. A little frustration and a little gloating (US residents can't get David Edding's Mallorean and Belgariad or Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer, but I can't get Death at La Fenice: A Commissario Brunetti Mystery)

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 15:29:18 BDT
Susan Bryce says:
Thank you all.

I think when I registered with Amazon.co.uk all I provided was an email address. Only my payment details are registered to my address in Germany, but payment can be made by any card as long as the address and card number match up.

I think I may have a friend in the UK buy me a Kindle and have a ebook buying frenzy and then have the Kindle sent over here .... ;)

Thanks again and good luck to all the other Brits abroad :)

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 15:35:30 BDT
Denis Powell says:
CBR, until the VAT rate on UK Amazon books went down to 3% I bought a lot of my eBooks from several US retailers. One US publishers I buy from also offers bundles of short stories at a discounted price if you order and pay in advance of publication. It pays, sometimes, to shop around.

I bought an eBook this week from fictionwise.com in .mobi format as it isn't available from Amazon UK. I find that a strange situation but it's very rare that I can't get a Kindle readable version somewhere (legally).

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 16:01:17 BDT
Damaskcat says:
You would not in any case provide an IP address but it doesn't stop Amazon's software identifying you as spending most of your time outside the UK and therefore redirecting you to correct site for your location. Just pointing out that the current situation where you can download from the UK site may not continue indefinitely.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2012 18:14:13 BDT
CBRetriever says:
thanks, I'm checking it out
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