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Posted on 22 Jun 2012 14:28:50 BDT
Have loved reading all these stories the last couple of days and it has also served to remind me of how lucky I am in life.


In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 11:22:49 BDT
Frenchie says:
Yes Suze, it was a very difficult time but I have always been an optimist. My son's prognosis was very poor. We were told he would not pass his first night, then the next fortnight, then the next three months, then the next nine months, the first 3 years and then the first 7 years. But he is a fighter.
I am happy your son is happy now, I am sorry, I do not know he was ill. It must have been hard for you too. No mother is ever prepared to see her children suffer.
@Tui Allen, what you wrote about your daughter and Mieke was beautiful. I had some tears in my eyes (of joy, though). A baby does not his/her mother.
@ Lilian, it is truly wonderful that your grand daughter has been given the all clear now. She is a 14 year old now, isn't she? it is going to make her life and her parents so easier and she can enjoy things that teens do now. It is a very good news.

Apologies to all for ''postnapping'' this thread. Can't help it xxxxxxx

Posted on 22 Jun 2012 11:10:30 BDT
Lilian says:
Hmmm....the ocean might make it a bit of a trek Tui :-) Good to see you have retained your sense of humour despite everything that's been going on in your life recently :-) One day you will be taking your little one shopping for girly things, and enjoying lunch and loving every minute :-)x

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 11:07:27 BDT
Tui Allen says:
Lilian, I saw your post on another thread about going to lunch with your grand-daughter and it seemed so hard to imagine ever doing that with little Mieke. When it happens I'll send you a telepathic message inviting you to join us, though there could be a few practical difficulties, like thousands of miles of ocean to cross.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 11:03:56 BDT
Last edited by the author on 22 Jun 2012 11:07:53 BDT
Lilian says:
French Bookworm, Reading your comment about the 'weaker sex' reminded me of the time when my grand-daughter was diagnosed with Leukaemia (she was just coming up to 7 years) We were totally devastated as nothing like this had ever touched our family before. She was taken to hospital and stayed there for several weeks (mum stayed as well) while treatment was put in place and during the course of that the doctors told my daughter that girls always recover more than boys from this dreadful disease. That was good for us to know, and thankfully after 7 years she was given the 'all clear' with just an annual hospital check-up for the rest of her life now. Apparently girls are able to cope with Chemo and everything else far better than boys, and their pain threshold is also much better, so it's more likely a girl will recover fully whereas boys are more likely to need transplants etc.,
No wonder women are able to cope with childbirth so well LOL!! My grandma used to say 'if men had the first baby there wouldn't be a second one' and yet we ladies still have several children....I have five, all grown up now and with children of their own (7 grandchildren for me and a new great-grand-daughter now as well)
Keep smiling Tui, and I hope your daughter and baby will soon be home again :-)x

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 10:39:54 BDT
amberfox says:
That's a sad reaction Hyperbole girl; not sure I would consider it "snobbery" - more "dyed in the wool". Like you I read both tree and e-books; cannot envisage a life without books in any form and still have a toppling pile of tree books on my nightstand which I add to every now and again - mainly from charity shops.

It took me a while to purchase a Kindle wondering whether it would be used enough to warrant the expense but it goes everywhere with me; something I cannot imagine with many tree books, especially Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall which was a house brick of a book. So I read even more than I used to; something I didn't think possible.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 10:23:39 BDT
Last edited by the author on 22 Jun 2012 10:24:15 BDT
Tui Allen says:
What an amazing story Bookworm. Thank-you so much for sharing it with me especially at this time. Suddenly stories of other people's experiences with early births are of enormous interest to me, and I'm finding out how lucky we are with little Mieke. She is one of the strongest babies there and they are saying she can be moved to a non-critical baby-care hospital as early as next week. The next hospital is a bit closer to Heather's home so it will be a little easier than being in Brisbane and perhaps a bit cheaper for mum and Dad too.
I have seen lovely photos of her and her entire exquisite little hand is smaller than her mother's thumb which she is holding.

Bookworm you are so right about the little drawer in the baby's brain. Heather says Mieke knows her and always stops crying if she allowed to lie against her mother's skin as though she knows she's in the right place. We have photos of them together like that. It is the most beautiful thing.

I'm so pleased your son has grown into a big teenager and I hope he transcends all his disabilities and lives a long and happy life.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 08:06:21 BDT
Suze says:
French, I bet you were a wreck at first until you realised he was going to make it. It just goes to show how much our doctors and nurses do for us, to keep us and loved ones alive. They really pulled the stops out for your son though and thankfully he is now a happy child.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 07:58:12 BDT
Frenchie says:
How beautiful. I remember, I was not allowed to cuddle my son until he was 4 month old, he was very poorly. He stayed 5 and 1/2 months in the incubator, he was the oldest baby there. I was seeing all the others going home, we mums used to hug and cry (of happiness) when one baby was going. And as I stayed, I could reassure all the other new mums. The nurses used to call my baby the 'old man' or the 'veteran'. Then at 6 months, we moved hospital and went to the Royal London, which had a big pediatric ward. My baby was still poorly but one nurse told him : Hey, you are not going to bully us, we'll bully you into going home (he used to go bradycardia all the time and all the doctors and nurses would rush with all the equipment to revive him). I was like , don't bully my baby, how can he understand, but funnily enough, he went from strength to strength and at 9 months, I took him home. So, I do believe babies have a little drawers somewhere in their brain where they can understand totally what's going on. Because my son was starved of oxygen at birth, he has now chronic lung disease and other problems but he is such a rascal that most of the time, we do not see his disabilities, but his cheekiness. And he is a teen now, and you can really see his mood has changed. He cannot speak but my, he really knows how to make himself heard and understood. You know, the broody teenager :) I love him to bits.
I am very happy for you and her mum. I hope they'll make their way home soon.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 07:47:46 BDT
Suze says:
Tui, that's excellent news. Bet you're all so relieved. Hopefully, you will get to see her soon.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Jun 2012 04:17:56 BDT
Tui Allen says:
Thank-you Bookworm. So reassuring.

Suze, she is doing just fine and has been moved away from the critical care end of the ward. She is off all anti-biotics and seems to be able to withstand the real world. Heather is allowed to take her out of the incubator and have cuddles. She is taking Heather's milk but not yet able to suck it for herself. Heather expresses it and they give it via a tube, so that will help her to fight off infections so dangerous to preemies.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Jun 2012 07:42:40 BDT
Frenchie says:
That is wonderful news. Tui, I forgot to tell you the other day that when my son was in the SCABU, of all the babies that went home first were the baby girls. Shows you once again the resilience of the so called weaker sex. Boys took longer to get better. I pray that everything will go well for you all.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Jun 2012 07:14:50 BDT
Suze says:
How is she doing Tui

Posted on 21 Jun 2012 04:26:18 BDT
Tui Allen says:
I got a photo of the baby. A friend of James' took it and emailed it to me. Happy now. She is perfect.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jun 2012 07:14:44 BDT
Suze says:
Congratulations on your new grand daughter Tui, I hope she's ok :-)

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jun 2012 07:13:55 BDT
Suze says:
What's it got to do with anybody else how often you go away anyway. As long as you're not asking them to pay for it. Cheeky people.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jun 2012 02:15:22 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jun 2012 02:16:37 BDT
K. A. Newton says:

Also find out about using a computer with a camera.

Friend of mine held her laptop out the lounge window so it would "photograph" the street outside for her sister in Pakistan who was sat at home looking at her laptop.

I had my laptop switched on camera and baby grandson sat on my knee was most interested in watching himself on my knee then I clicked to keep the screen image. Every so often I use it as a desktop.

Amazing how the babies' faces change from week to week.

I was a 32 week baby and you should see me now.

Should have been born in August 1948 as an NHS baby but I came early in June and poor Dad had to pay the hospital when I was born.

Posted on 19 Jun 2012 23:29:55 BDT
Tui Allen says:
Apparently not. She has just been discharged on the street with nowhere to go. They live in a rural location three hours drive away from the hospital and that is where his work is. They've just moved into a rented house there and can only just afford to pay that rent. They would have managed okay if things had gone according to plan but this has put them in the financial doo-doos as she has to find accommodation in Brisbane to be near the baby, but there is no money for it.

She can't get government help since she is not an Australian. She's a kiwi. But he is trying to get some help and as he's an Aussie, this might work out for them to tide them over until they can get home where he can earn normally. He could be working now but he feels its too soon to leave Heather alone and wants to get her sorted before he goes back. Right now as I write, they're driving home and back to get papers they need to apply for help. I wanted to fly over to see Mieke right now but sent them the money instead. It was necessary and I'm going in September anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 23:17:34 BDT
Frenchie says:
Can't the hospital accomodate your daughter while the baby is in SCABU? In London, well, at least in East London with the Royal London Hospital, they do have some accommodations for parents. Not enough but at least, they try, especially when the parents are coming from far.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 23:17:23 BDT
Tui Allen says:
Unfortunately they are hippy-style folk with a simple lifestyle so no computers of their own but she is very computer literate and gets online sometimes. I am going to Australia in September and am over the moon this morning because a friend of James has sent me photos of Heather with the tiniest baby I've ever seen.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 23:14:26 BDT
Tui Allen says:
Thanks to you also M. All reassurance is needed right now, though the baby is doing very well.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 23:13:39 BDT
Tui Allen says:
She was born at 30 weeks so stories like yours are very re-assuring to me. Thank-you.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 19:38:32 BDT
Linda says:
Hope all goes well Tui and congratualtions on being a granny.

Posted on 19 Jun 2012 19:36:19 BDT
Knightmare says:
I have an Oberon cover and I love it. It's the Avenue of Trees in Fern and it is so beautiful. But I don't have children and me and my partner both work, so I can afford to treat myself once in a while.

As for book snobs, they really get on my nerves. It makes absolutely no difference whether you read a book in hardback, paperback or ebook format as long as you read it and enjoy it. When I was at school, my English teacher would have done anything to get most of my class reading. I remember when I was in Sixth Form, he roped me in to try and encourage his Year 7 class to read. All I did was ask them what they were interested in and then found them a book about that subject, for example, one boy said he liked to watch scary films so I got him one of RL Stine's Goosebumps books and within a couple of weeks, half the class was into reading them.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 19:25:11 BDT
Lilian says:
Congratulations Tui, it's wonderful to have a brand new baby in the family :-) I have a great-grand-daughter (my first) and she lives in China, so I haven't seen her yet, apart from photos. However, my grand-daughter and her husband are coming home for an extended holiday and I will meet this gorgeous baby in a couple of weeks time....and I am sooooo excited :-)
I hope your daughter and baby will soon be able to return home and who knows you may be able to go and visit them one day :-) Has your daughter got a computer? If so why don't you get set up with Skype so you can have regular 'visits' I don't have it myself (no idea how it works) but my daughter chats to her 'China family' regularly via skype. I'm sure there will be someone here who can help you if you like the idea :-)x
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