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Initial post: 15 Jun 2009 00:10:57 BDT
With "Giallo" on its way,what are your views on Argento.

Posted on 15 Jun 2009 19:25:04 BDT
Argento, he's a brilliant director. I'm not sure how "Giallo" will turn out but despite people saying he's lost his touch I still hope for a great film from him, lets face it people were saying he was past his best through the 90's as well then came "Sleepless" which I thought was amazing.

Of Argento's films my favourites are
Profondo Rosso

Posted on 16 Jun 2009 18:30:25 BDT
JONESY says:
I have got nearly all of Argento's films apart from The Card Player. They are super- stylish imo and i have been highly impressed with the colour schemes, visual impact and set-piece death scenes. i agree with A Walker as to the pick of the bunch, but also liked Stendhal Syndrome, Demons, Bird with Crystal Plumage and Sleepless

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jun 2009 21:04:08 BDT
Doc Benway says:
Next week is Argento week in my house. The wife will be away and I've got Four Flies, Trauma and Stendahl Syndrome ordered (not seen them yet).
I'll probably watch Inferno and Cat Of Nine Tails again as well.
I doubt any of them will top Bird With Crystal Plumage, Deep Red or Suspiria but I'm looking forward to finding out.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jun 2009 23:16:50 BDT
Last edited by the author on 16 Jun 2009 23:19:14 BDT
It looks like "Giallo" may not be on its way after all.Argento states the producers are not answering his calls regarding a release date or anything else for that matter.He has also stated that he's not that keen on the whole project and did it as a director for hire rather than being producer,writer and director, his preferred way to making films.

epicentremaximus,tell us what you think of "Stendahl Syndrome" and what it says about the Argento family.

Posted on 17 Jun 2009 21:13:30 BDT
I own and have seen almost all his films. Really like most of them, the only two I didn't really enjoy were Stendahl Syndrome and Mother Of Tears but hopefully enjoy them more on repeated viewing. I really like all the early ones I have seen up to Tenebrae, then after that my favourites are Opera, Trauma and Sleepless. I haven't got The Card Player yet so can't judge that one. I love the Demons films but don't class them as Argento films.

Posted on 18 Jun 2009 20:49:36 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 Jun 2009 20:49:54 BDT
I've got most of his early output and would certainly put Bird, Suspiria and Tenebre up there as his best, my least favourite are Inferno (I really objected to the Cat bashing and the whole film made no sense) and Stendhal Syndrome (A bit self indulgent and his treatment of Asia is 'worrying').

For a real huh? check out Phenomena, that's a head trip.

Posted on 18 Jun 2009 21:31:53 BDT
I meant to include the excellent Phenomena alongside Opera, Trauma and Sleepless as my later Argento favourites.

Posted on 19 Jun 2009 17:40:04 BDT
jony_darko says:
To those who think he's lost his touch, I give you 'Jennifer' and 'Pelts' from Masters of Horror season 1 and 2, some of his finest work ever.

Posted on 19 Jun 2009 21:35:05 BDT
"Jennifer" and "Pelts" were certainly enjoyable proving Argento still has talent and "Pelts" especially was a great film however I still thought a lot of his earlier work was much better but then thats just my opinion, by the way jony darko why the name change? I suspect you needed John Page to disappear after word got out about those "home movies"!

Count Zaroff you did a name change of your own, I suppose the old name was banned in 31 countries, and to think I thought you'd disappeared but you've still been active these last few days, your last comment regarding "Giallo" has me a little worried, if Argento is already denying enthusiasm towards the film and claiming he didn't have the amount of control he usually does due to producers then I suspect he doesn't expect the film to do too well, I won't lose faith however and am expecting good things of "Giallo".

Also what do you all think of the series "Door into Darkness"?

Posted on 19 Jun 2009 23:07:30 BDT
jony_darko says:
jony_darko has always been my user name on here and ebay, only found out how to make it my pen name recently.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jun 2009 17:13:30 BDT
JONESY says:
Phenomena is the only one that i thought was a bit of a yawn.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2009 08:12:38 BDT
Last edited by the author on 25 Jun 2009 11:38:00 BDT
Doc Benway says:
I watched Trauma and Stendahl Syndrome yesterday (between bouts of painting the back room) and enjoyed them both.
I thought Asia was great in them both, and they had enough of Argento's ideas in them to please me. I'm not sure why people who profess to like Argento don't like them.
With Trauma, because I've be watching a fair few gialli, I was kind of viewing it as one of them and didn't find it lacking in terms of a solid modern entry into the genre.
With Stendahl, perhaps it was the score but it really put me in mind of Vertigo, one of my favourite films.
I thought the rapes were brutal but not eroticised, so I'll not be calling the Italian social services just yet Count Zaroff.
The slight letdown this week has been Opera, which had oodles of style but was somehow a bit unsatisfying. Perhaps it wasn't bold enough with it's ideas. The dreadful tenth rate Judas Priest stuff over the murder scenes was abysmal, and a strange choice considering how that NWOBHM style was old hat by the time the film was made.
I'm on for Four Flies and Cat O' Nine Tails today, and really looking forward to Sleepless, though I await Phenomena with a little more trepidation. Going to have to see it though.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2009 19:54:04 BDT
epicentremaximus,perhaps social services are not needed but a good family therapist .I found "Stendahl" such a strange film to watch knowing the family relationship,a bit creepy to be honest.

Posted on 25 Jun 2009 20:54:36 BDT
jay says:
does anyone know if The church will ever get a region 2 dvd release?

Posted on 25 Jun 2009 21:04:45 BDT
As far as I'm aware there is no forth coming UK release for "The Church".There is a R1 release out.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jun 2009 21:59:23 BDT
Doc Benway says:
Count Zaroff, Dario uses film making as his family therapy I think.
Saw Four Flies On Grey Velvet this afternoon. I reckon Adrian Luther-Smith has it nailed with his comment on how it shows Argento getting bored with "whodunnit" mysteries and beginning to experiment with thematic film making.
By the way, has anyone seen Five Days Of Milan? I haven't searched too hard but I imagine it's a beggar to get hold of.
Been reflecting on what I found lacking in Opera, and I've come to the conclusion it's that the nature theme in the closing scene is suddenly shoe-horned in. Perhaps it could have somehow been established earlier, but as it is the film is very much urban in every sense I can recall. Feels like an afterthought as a result.
Any thoughts?

Posted on 7 Aug 2009 16:06:43 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Aug 2009 10:39:08 BDT
David says:
Dario Argento is an excellent director. My favourite Argento films are Tenebre, Deep Red, Sleepless and The Bird With The Crystal Plumage. These are classic Italian horror films. I was very dissapointed with Mother Of Tears a badly made conclusion to the otherwise excellent "Three Mothers" trilogy which includes Susperia and Inferno. I hope that Argento's next film Giallo sees the directors return to form. The trailer looks excellent so fingers crossed.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Aug 2009 09:02:08 BDT
Me says:
Since watching Suspiria on a massive cinema screen, with an incredible sound system, Argento has been my favorite Director. He is a true original and no matter what some people say about his films, he is always trying something new. You might not like a certain film but you must admit he has experimented with the genre, pushing his very personal style of film making as far as it will go. People who wanted Inferno and Mother of Tears to be a carbon copy of Suspiria were upset. But honestly they should know by now, this isn't Saw 2, 3, 5, and so on... these are Argento films. If they are fans they should know to expect the unexpected.
He is a master film maker.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Aug 2009 10:19:10 BDT
Doc Benway says:
I've watched all but a handful of Argento's films and would say that he's consistently entertaining and inventive. For all it's clunkiness in parts that even applies to Mother Of Tears.
The words "return to form" are often bandied around about him, but I think it's pretty obvious now that what he puts out is his form - flawed but different from the mass of generic slush that dominates the horror and thriller genres.
His films are fascinating enough on a stylistic and textual level to justify his being described as an auteur genius.

Posted on 8 Jan 2010 00:30:30 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jan 2010 00:31:33 GMT
"Giallo" has been released in Poland on DVD. see for details. Has anyone used this site and if so are they okay?

Posted on 18 Mar 2010 20:54:21 GMT
One that I still haven't bought yet is "The Card Player". Surely this can't be worse than my least favourite "The Stendahl Syndrome". I also wonder if I will find it better than "Mother of Tears", because that is also one of my least favourites of his.

His Master of Horror films are his best I have seen since the excellent "Sleepless".

My Argento directed top ten in no particular order:

Suspiria (excellent)
Profondo Rosso aka Deep Red (excellent)
Tenebre aka Tenebrae (excellent)
Inferno (excellent)
Trauma (excellent)
Cat O' Nine Tails (excellent)
Bird with the Crystal Plummage (excellent)
Sleepless (excellent)
Opera aka Terror at the Opera (excellent)
Phenomena (excellent)

Still haven't watched my dvd of animals trilogy finale "Four Flies on Grey Velvet" yet, so can't put that in my top ten.

Posted on 19 Mar 2010 16:00:46 GMT
My favourite director bar none, he may not be the once fully-functioning force he was but he has a free pass as far as I'm concerned, he is exempt from criticism. A teenage viewing of "Suspiria" very late on Channel 4 opened up a world of film to me which I'm still just skimming the surface of. Watching the opening was like being on the scariest ghost train in the world, exhilarating and scary and riveting, an exercise in pure sensory absorption from a director using everything cinema possesses to create a transcendent work of beautiful and violent art. It was the best use of colour since Kenneth Anger's "Inauguration Of The Pleasure Dome" and Time Out were right in observing "Suspiria is what you imagine every horror film is like when you're too young to watch them". Not to put too fine a point on it, it changed my life.

I'm constantly torn between that and "Profondo Rosso" as to which is my favourite: "Profondo Rosso" more commonly pips it as I feel "Suspiria" is a little let down by it's ending. I can't say I've ever seen a film of his which I've found truly reprehensible but some are better than others and those are more often to be found at the start of his career. I feel a revisit of "Sleepless" could be on the cards tonight.

Posted on 17 Apr 2010 14:08:02 BDT
For the completest (and well off) The Five Days of Milan ( Le cinque giornate ) ( The 5 Days of Milan )

Posted on 17 Apr 2010 15:13:54 BDT
Many thanks Count, as one of those completists I'll have to get that one even if its not supposedly all that great.

Any info on a DVD release of "Giallo" that doesn't have burned in Polish subtitles or abysmal cover art anyone?
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