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In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jun 2012 09:12:16 BDT
Post Soviet says:
West, I'll second brilliant first scene in Ingl. Basterds, another was deadly shootout in cellar The rest was - meh. Anthony surely will oint out that Tarantino isn't originator, but I love how he stretches scenes with dialog, or car chase (Death Proof) as if he owned all time in the world. Death Proof made me to find great car chase movie Vanishing Point, Vanishing Point soundtrack introduced me to band Mountain etc. Still I get Anthony point, as I haven't seen all those originals that inspired Tarantino, and cannot objectively judge. I understand how some films get so much overexposure in media (Matrix, Tarantino movies, Casablanca and so on) that after reaching some threshold people automatically start loathing them or (sheeplike category) to repeat and rave all that glorifying nonsense. I would like to believe having immunity to all these things and be able decide for myself what I really like.
C'mon, there are good mainstream movies too! IMHO. '0)
I also liked The House Of Laughing Winds, as you said, atmosphere was right & creepy.
Thanks to both of you, cople Nero movies are in a basket, including Street Law. Haven't seen it.

Oh, where I hated dialogs in Tarantino movies dialogs, was in Kill Bill 2, between Thurman and Carradine. AAARGH...
Strangely I enjoyed whole Death Proof with all that girlish blethering, and already watched it four or five times.

Posted on 14 Jun 2012 14:26:56 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 Jun 2012 14:34:15 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
I might actually prefer 'The Big Racket' to 'Street Law'....please don't hate me!I'm not a troll-honest!I've been really tempted by 'Contraband' but I'm too skint at the mo'-do any of you rate it?I saw it years ago and really enjoyed the violence-but can't remember anything else about it.
Lets get back to the original point of this thread-Italian cult cinema-any of you seen 'Giallo in Venice?'I used to have a copy on video with italian audio only-and that had THE best 'man cutting off a ladies leg scene' EVER!

Just had a little nosey..'Contraband' is only about 6 quid or summat with postage...very tempting!

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jun 2012 18:54:16 BDT
"Beauty and the Beast"? Definitely didn't see that one coming! I think you'll like "The Big Racket" its another Castellari vigilante film but this time its a hot-headed cop trying to shut a protection racket who typically use legal technicalities to keep from being caught, of course when Testi see's the law can't handle the situation he assembles a crew of bitter civilians and wages war, great stuff. I really liked "Revolver" too, its an awesome action film with strong socio-political messages, I take it you're working your way through the Blue Underground back-catalogue based on many of the films mentioned of late. "What Have you done to Solange?" is one of my favourite gialli, lots of twists and interesting if somewhat dubious characters.

Linnea Quigley is one of the best scream queen's, I recently saw her in "Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama" and thought once again she did great, god knows how I put off getting a film with such a cool title so long.

Hope you enjoy your time off, bet you go back to work with rectangle eye's (they won't be square now that TV's are widescreen) and a fortnight long hangover.

L. A. Prince no need to apologise, "The Big Racket" is a really good movie and truth be told not far off "Street Law" in my opinion, both films are definitely cool, Castellari's other crime film "Heroin Busters" didn't go down nearly as well, I thought it was an enjoyable film but not the sort I'd go back to more than every few years, still the man gave us "Keoma" and that's one of the best spaghetti westerns of the lot, I liked his "Johnathon of the Bears" a lot too but most people don't seem to mention it so I'd bet its not too popular. I saw "Giallo in Venice" a few years back on a bootleg disc with subtitles (the pirates give us some fairly competent versions these days!), I thought the plot was weak but admit the violent scenes really were nasty, anyone seen THAT scene from "Crimes of the Black Cat"? I couldn't believe how nasty it was, like "The New York Ripper" cranked up a notch in sleaze and sadism!

Post Soviet there are some great mainstream titles, I'm not fond of very many but of the recent hollywood titles (from the 90's on) I think top of the list is "Falling Down", its such a frank portrayal of all the little things we hate and how one day if pushed someone might over-react to it all, as much as I thought the main character had lost it I was with him all the way and many times he was right even if his handling of situations was less than appropriate.

Posted on 14 Jun 2012 19:32:57 BDT
Post Soviet says:
Checking out US zon found these four triple dvd sets with Italian horror, action, westerns and thrillers (all oldies) coming out on 31 of July.

http://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Movies-Vol-Companeros-Apocalypse/dp/B007XF0XES/ref=pd_sim_sbs_mov_3

http://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Movies-Vol-Feature-Busters/dp/B007XF0XYS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339697122&sr=8-2

and two more.

AMD, loved Falling Down too.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jun 2012 21:51:52 BDT
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Posted on 15 Jun 2012 14:49:30 BDT
Last edited by the author on 15 Jun 2012 14:50:10 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
I put on Keoma last night...totally ignorant (or forgot..) that it was Castellari until his name came up.I also rewatched Street Law this week-need to get The Big Racket on again soon.Hell-I might even have to do his 'Bronx Warriors' trilogy again now!
Talking of 'scream queens' I never realised Suzanne Snyder was in ROTLD2 until I saw her on the extras on the ROTLD bluray-she was smoking hot in 'Night of the Creeps'.I will always have to go for Barbara Crampton though-best thing about 'Body Double' and great in Reanimator and From Beyond-phwoar!

I've gone off topic...DAMN YOU CRAMPTON!

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jun 2012 15:32:49 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jun 2012 17:22:42 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jun 2012 14:49:39 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
Is that the 'special edition' of Beauty and the Beast with 'Be our Guest*'?I hate that song and can see why it was omitted.It's a great film tho' and my kids love it-makes a change from all the cgi stuff they normally like!
Going back to 'Inglorious..'(sorry...)some git called my review of it on here 'stupid'....I don't handle criticism very well so I now hate this person....HOW DARE THEY!
Does anyone recommend 'Contraband'?I did ask before but it fell on deaf ears...

*edit-'Human Again' is the song I hate!Duh...

Posted on 19 Jun 2012 17:54:51 BDT
I did recently hear about the Blue Underground boxsets but figured everyone else knew too, I think Sorority Babes is just the same print but I got the US version as it was cheaper, apparently it was distributed by the same people so I doubt its any different.

Sorry to say but if the spaghetti westerns boxset is the UK Argent films set some of the films (I can't remember which) are cut for horsefalls, its not a big deal but I bought imports at about the same price on principal, no-one tells me I can't watch a film uncut just because a horse MIGHT have been injured during filming.

I think as far as scream queen's go Tisa Farrow tops my list, I've been obsessed with her ever since watching a pirate tape (and not a very good one!) of "Zombie Flesh Eaters" at age sixteen, pity she refuses to do interviews and doesn't like her cult infamy.

As for "Contraband" its a Fulci, need I say more! Its above average in plot but its the blood and sadism that sets it apart from most Italian crime films, oh and Fulci actually does a cameo where he blasts someone to bits, I think its cool to see the man dish out the violence first-hand but then maybe its just me.

Posted on 20 Jun 2012 14:42:08 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
Just bought it as 'The Naples Connection' for a few quid on here-bargain-dunno what the print is like but it said 'uncut and restored'.
I'm with you on the 'horsefalls' issue.I watched Ulzanas raid recently and the removal of the horsefalls rendered it ALMOST unwatchabe-would've easily made my top 10 westerns if it had been intact-great film!It's weird as the bbfc have no say over tv you can occasionally see great horsefalls.I was watching some comedy tv compilation clip show voiced by some kid from the inbetweeners and that showed some brutal horse action from some bollywood film.I nearly never bought 'Red Cliff' because of censored horse falls-I had to give in for the sake of a few quid in the end.It's not that I condone the mistreatment of any animals you understand-but they don't ban the grand national now do they?There are a couple of naughty ones in Django I remember where you can blatantly see rope around the horses front legs as they go a over t.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jun 2012 17:45:05 BDT
I bet the "The Naples Connection" is the same print used for the Blue Underground "Contraband" which looked fairly good. I really hate the BBFC's policy on animal cruelty, it makes no sense, I think they should just pass it all uncut as cutting it doesn't undo anything, its as if hiding the violence corrects the fact that it happened, all they're really doing is turning a blind eye in hopes no-one gets offended, why is it okay in "Apocalypse Now", how come since "Cannibal Holocaust" grew in cult status most of the violence can be justified even though that thing that everyone assumes is a muskrat (it isn't though I forgot its name) is still cut. How come a cat eating a mouse in "Inferno" passes fine as the censors were told it just happened and was filmed without planning when a rat set on fire incidentally during the flamethrower sewer scene in "Cannibal Apocalypse" that the camera doesn't even try to focus on is cut? The bottom line is they don't have to condone animal violence but film history is rife with it sometimes deliberate, sometimes accidental and sometimes due to different opinions on what constitutes as cruelty from generation to generation and from country to country, to try and pretend it never happened is stupid and doesn't even serve a purpose but to selectively justify some then continue to cut others is just plain insanity! I think the BBFC should be demoted to age certifying and have their scissors conviscated!

Posted on 26 Jun 2012 11:32:48 BDT
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Posted on 26 Jun 2012 12:47:18 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
GET ON IT!I only got it today so I've yet to watch it-but it's the A.W.E. dvd so the quality is fine.I'm almost tempted to buy another one and flog it in the future for a massive profit..of maybe 4 or 5 quid!The booklet inside has the Blue Underground artwork on the front-it's only a little single sheet thing so just 'slip it in the front'.Bargain.
Yeah...realised my mistake with 'Human Again' hence the edit...It was because of The Simpsons I realised my error...'DOH!'See what I dun there?I don't normally like cartoon chicks but what about those honeys with the knockers who fancy Gaston?Phwoar!

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2012 14:18:57 BDT
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Posted on 26 Jun 2012 17:57:09 BDT
J. Underwood says:
hey guys, ive been after an english friendly version of "giallo a venezia" for a while now and cannot locate it anywhere! Mya were supposed to bring it out on dvd in 2011 but that never happened along with a lot of the other giallos in their list. All I can find are full Italian edits without any english subs, was it even released anywhere with a cheap dub or subs?

Posted on 26 Jun 2012 20:48:26 BDT
Last edited by the author on 26 Jun 2012 20:49:56 BDT
McAvennie8 says:
You can get it on DVDr from Cinema de Bizarre.
I really enjoyed it, but a few contributors on these pages didn't think it was up to much.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jun 2012 00:10:11 BDT
J. Underwood says:
wow thanx, just ordered it. i can view it in english finally.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jun 2012 15:10:35 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
I know what your saying about Gaston..but with him it's more about the 'hunt' than the 'Catch' I fear!.Watched Naples Connection last night-I'd forgotten about some of the quality gore in it!There's a little Fulci documentary on the extras that's got English subs too-pretty sure it's the same as is on my AWE 'New York Ripper' dvd though..Some doughnut only gave it a 2 star review on here so I had to give it a five star one.

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Posted on 28 Jun 2012 15:02:00 BDT
I know I'm way too fussy about cuts but I can't help it, I just can't stand watching a film knowing some lunatic thought they knew better than me and removed footage to prevent people seeing it, I heard UK porn is meant to be pretty bad, I read once about a third of all porn is cut over here with such insanity as cutting the third person out of a threesome, during hardcore only three bounces at a time or further bounces are cut, any fetish material where both parties don't make it blatantly obvious they fully consent and female ejaculation is apparantly illegal as the BBFC dismiss it as a myth and think its just urine, I was told a big case was made of it and after scientific proof was brought by film-makers the scene was passed uncut however the BBFC had the nerve to say that this proof would not affect their policy on other films with such footage, I mean come on, these crazy fossils need to get a life, I'm not into porn but I think its insane how heavily censored it is over here, especially since most people watch it online uncut anyway. Speaking of censorship Amazon deleted a post, who posted and what was the post about?

Glad you enjoyed "The Naples Connection" L. A. Prince its a really cool film, I think Fulci was trying to make one of the roughest crime films which is why the violence is so over the top, still nothing rivals "Almost Human" in that area, when I heard it was getting submission to the BBFC I was curious to see whether it would come out unscathed, somehow it did although I figured the home invasion scene would've been a bit much for them.

Great list West25, you should upgrade "Torso" to the Blue Underground Blu-ray if you really like the film as it looks ten times better, I know you don't have a region A Blu-ray player but you'll be happy to know the only Blue Underground Blu-ray that's region coded is "Django" so far, funny you mention "The Strange Vice of Mrs Wardh" as I was watching it just two days ago, it never fails to impress, easily my favourite giallo, I also got an original Belgian cinema poster for it which looks so beautiful. As for "Little Otik" I loved that one, its such a weird film, hard to tell if its a fairytale or a horror film though in a way its both with a pinch of black comedy for good measure.

Sorry about the harsh comments on "Giallo a Venezia" over the years JONESY, I don't mind it but apart from the over the top violence it doesn't do much for me, did you see the Bethmann film "Rossa Venezia" that one is so sleazy I love it despite it lacking anything resembling substance, its a women in prison, splatter, giallo, porn-revenge film, three hours of pure exploitation! I remember you were a fan of German splatter and this is one of the best in the bunch.

Posted on 28 Jun 2012 16:26:27 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2012 16:40:52 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
I'm trying to think why my post was deleted.....um...All I said was don't expect too much from my review of 'The Naples Connection' and that I'm no mark kermode...and I said thank ---- for that!Obviously I censored myself in my original reply so I don't know what their ------- problem is.I also said how much I love Torso as well.
I've not seen Little Opik but it looks great-although prohibitively expensive..I saw a load of his short films years back and really liked 'em but I've never heard of Little Opik.I only found out Chas Balun was dead yesterday.Gutted.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2012 19:11:15 BDT
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Posted on 28 Jun 2012 21:24:32 BDT
L. A. Prince says:
I looked up Chas Balun after reading a quote of his on 'The Naples Connection' dvd.I used to buy Deep Red years ago and I've still got a copy of 'The Gore Score' knocking about somewhere.Before the internet his reviews were a pretty good resource of films we would struggle to see over here back then.I would probably never have seen films like 'They don't cut the grass anymore' or 'Deadbeat at Dawn' if not for him.
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