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In reply to an earlier post on 8 Dec 2013 09:09:56 GMT
Post Soviet says:
Thanks for taking time here JONESY. Another giallo (don't have many gotta admit) saw recently was Delirium, it was ok if not for constant women shrieking, it annoyed me a lot.

Posted on 4 Dec 2013 19:56:21 GMT
JONESY says:
Hiya PS.
He directed "Slaughter of the Vampires" which is a reasonably atmospheric yarn, although a bit pedestrian and predictable.
An ok view but nothing special. The vampire German actor Dieter Eppler was conned into the part and never got paid for his time and trouble.
His acting style is most peculiar seeming, as he does, to favour the exaggerated facial expressions of silent film actors.

Posted on 3 Dec 2013 18:50:58 GMT
Post Soviet says:
Anyone heard of Italian director Roberto Mauri? Couldn't find his name on these fora neither wiki was helpful. Asking because watched couple days ago one of his films, called "Madeleine... Anatomia di Incubo", a little drama, a little psychological thriller, enough 70s type of erotica, in brief liked it a lot. Plus factor also was a lead actress Camille Keaton better known from I Spit On Your Grave.
Any more knews from giallo lovers?

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Nov 2012 18:12:16 GMT
Yeah I see what you mean, both "Antichrist" and "Caligula" have sex scenes bordering on hardcore but the BBFC let them go the former due to its artistic merit the latter due to its historic importance in cinema and whilst thats all well and good for said films but any run of the mill horror film trying to get away with those scenes would be torn to shreds if it didn't want to be classed a porno and be restricted to sales in only porn shops.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Nov 2012 07:37:37 GMT
byekitty says:
absolutely true notions of taste and quality are such subjective things was trying to discuss this on another thread about how art films are often given a much easier time censorship wise than purely commercial or so called exploitation films are, i think this is often down to some misguided notion that art = good entertainment = bad but its not so simple

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Nov 2012 01:47:48 GMT
I completely understand where you're coming from and in all fairness I do think "Amer" is an art film that stands out, I can't go back on my opinion as the film has little narrative making the viewer rely solely on his or her appreciation of the films style and as I found all but the first twenty minutes a bit dull I can't say it worked for me but then film is very subjective and art films even moreso, that one just didn't click with me, as you say most people either love or loathe it and the purpose of art cinema is to provoke some kind of response so it definitely works in that respect.

As for your appreciation of trashy films I don't find it even slightly unusual, I think a lot of people who explore the art side of cinema also delve into exploitation, they both strive to stand out and leave a mark on their audiences one to do something bold and challenging on some level the other to recieve notoriety and make a quick buck, many art films have controversial elements and as exploitation producers only cared about marketing the directors were given a lot more creative control, I feel they are two sides of the same coin and the line between the two can be quite blurry, I think the two are just different ways of approaching the essence of cinema - provoking strong reactions or feelings from the audience. Its part of a theory I've had for some time that discredits notions of good taste under the premise a subjective art form can't be judged by a restrictive collective ideal and the strength of a movie is only decided by the individual, to use an example "The Gore Gore Girls" has enough jaw dropping insanity and fun moments to put it on par with most art films so tasteless or not I rank it among the cinematic elite, any thoughts on my philosophy/ramblings?

Posted on 11 Nov 2012 21:04:12 GMT
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I think 'Amer' is a film people either love or me it is a very cinematic piece of art that stands out from most of todays dialogue infested movies, after all cinema is about images. Sounds funny coming from someone who loves a lot of trashy rubbish, i just wish there were a few more film makers that understand what 'pure cinema' is...the Hitchcock method.

Posted on 11 Nov 2012 19:16:24 GMT
Never seen "Julia's Eyes", sounds like it'd be right up my alley though, I really love "The Fifth Cord" and it was one of about half a dozen that almost made it into my top ten, really great film.

As someone with a great love for arthouse, giallo and surrealism in film I should like "Amer" too but I really don't, the first twenty minutes are truly inspired but after that it isn't stylish, has no purpose and just seems to drag, after the initial childhood segment it just went flat and dull with the exception of a brief murder sequence, I'd recommend "The Last Caress" as a preferable modern French loose giallo throwback.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2012 15:04:27 GMT
Post Soviet says:
Yep, Julia's Eyes cool, gotsta find Amer, seems promising.

Posted on 10 Nov 2012 13:56:04 GMT
byekitty says:
love julia's eyes though never thought of it as a giallo film but i suppose it has many giallo elements not really that knowledgeable about giallo as a genre but interested in it

Posted on 10 Nov 2012 10:55:21 GMT
I know everyone's tastes are different but i am surprised no-one has included 'The Fifth Cord' in their top ten. To me this is one of the more accomplished giallo's & does everything right that i look for in a giallo, it has great mood & atmosphere, tension & arguably the best cinematography of any giallo.

Anyone seen the fairly recent 'Amer' or 'Julia's Eyes'?
'Amer' whilst more of a homage than actual giallo is visually stunning, amazing atmosphere & mood plus has a great soundtrack.
I really enjoyed 'Julia's Eyes' too...a lot more than i was expecting. The best & closest thing i have seen to a 70's italian giallo, even when the plot does start to get a lttle ridiculous towards the end, it is no different to the crazy plot twists of the 70's giallo's that we all love.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Nov 2012 20:35:39 GMT
I'll be sure to buy it soon, I've recently gotten back into giallo in a big way and have half a dozen bootlegs of the rare one's not available on legit DVD to watch too.

Glad you liked "Torso" BoF, I love it, it definitely had a huge effect on the evolution of the American slasher and is better than most of them too.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 19:49:12 GMT
Just watched Torso and I enjoyed it - i bought the Shameless Entertainment edition which has a yellow case. Just thought i'd tell you all lol

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 19:39:50 GMT
charred says:
Its not imitation, more of an homage, but its definately a film in its own right. I don't want to give anything away so I'll let you watch it first

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Nov 2012 01:25:21 GMT
Sorry to say I haven't seen it myself, I'm quite nervous about seeing it actually as there is a very thin line between a great throwback and poor imitation and the recent exploitation tributes have been kind of hit or miss, still the best of the bunch have been amazing and the quality and quantity is on the rise these last three years so I'm quite optimistic.

Posted on 7 Nov 2012 22:34:02 GMT
charred says:
Hey dudes,
I saw Berberian sound studio a couple of months ago now, and didn't have a clue what was going on in the second half, anyone know what was going on?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 18:54:00 GMT
Cool, and on to the list it goes...

Posted on 7 Nov 2012 15:31:11 GMT
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JONESY says:
Just watched a good copy of " Smile Before Death".
This is a brilliant movie ( marred only slightly by an overinsistent score).
It's got a great labyrinthine plot, excellent visuals and ample nudity.
It features the incredibly sexy Jenny Tamburi ( aka Luciana Tamburini)
who sadly died in 2006 of cancer aged 53, and Rosalba Neri.
Enough said.
Goes into my Top 10 straight away at the expense of "Who saw her die?"

Posted on 28 Oct 2012 12:39:28 GMT
La Dolce Morte: Vernacular Cinema and the Italian Giallo Film - this is probably closest to what you are looking for...not read it myself. A bit expensive for £30+...i know where there is a pdf ebook version for free online though.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Oct 2012 18:27:02 BDT
Sorry to say I haven't got the Aurum book so can't judge, the Giallo Scrapbooks are cheap but only have reviews and only cover the basics, I figured you wanted information rather than just a shopping list but it seems no-one has gotten down to writing anything too in depth outside of the Argento films as far as I'm aware.

Posted on 23 Oct 2012 14:58:28 BDT
JONESY says:
Hi AD,
Theres a good list on Wikipedia, but i wanted some more background on filming, directors, techniques ETC really.
Still, i'm loth to shell out £30 + on a history of giallo.
Shame there's not a giallo equivalent of Kim Newman's Nightmare Movies which i got on Amazon for £13.00.
Have you got the Aurum Horror Encyclopaedia? If so, is it worth the money? Is there a lot of giallo-related info in it?

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Oct 2012 19:40:38 BDT
Sorry to say I haven't found any giallo books that go further than my own knowledge, pity because I know there are hardcore fans who easily have twice my knowledge on the subject, as you say all the good ones cost far too much, I heard of a super-list being online which contains every known giallo film that was compiled by a large group of fans so getting a hold of it you could use it as a shopping list for some time to come but I haven't seen the list myself, its supposed to have about 300 titles, hope this helps.

Posted on 21 Oct 2012 16:35:08 BDT
Last edited by the author on 21 Oct 2012 16:35:29 BDT
West25 says:
1. Deep Red
2. The Case Of The Bloody Iris
3. The Strange Vice Of Mrs Wardh
4. Torso
5. Don't Torture A Duckling
6. Your Vice Is A Locked Room And Only I Have The Key
7. Lizard In A Woman's Skin
8. Who Saw Her Die?
9. House With Laughing Windows
10. Bloodstained Shadow

I could do the list again in a few weeks time and it would be completely different, I had to leave out some films I really like.

Posted on 20 Oct 2012 15:09:52 BDT
JONESY says:
" Skin....." isn't the best giallo i've got ( not improved by the not-great quality of the DVDr) but deserves kudos because of all the madness it tries to shoehorn in.
I enjoyed it anyway.

BTW Mr D., Do you have any books on giallo films. I wanted to get myself one, but they seem mentally expensive.
Any recommendations?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Oct 2012 14:20:55 BDT
Nice list JONESY, its obvious you've seen a lot more giallo since we last spoke about them a year or two back, I take it "Skin Under the Claws" is worth getting, I've got a huge backlog of films so it could be a while but next time I order from a DVDr site it was one of my main targets. Be as well post my list while I'm here.

1. The Strange Vice of Mrs Wardh
2. Don't Torture a Duckling
3. The Bloodstained Shadow
4. All the Colors of the Dark
5. Delirium
6. Perfume of the Lady in Black
7. The Night Evelyn Came out of the Grave
8. Short Night of Glass Dolls
9. Torso
10. Lizard in a Woman's Skin
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