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In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2014 17:27:45 BDT
LEP says:
Try Wilbur Smith's books. The earlier ones are set in Africa, but he then goes onto Eygpt etc.
Then there's James Clavell's Shogun series set in Japan.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2014 15:50:29 BDT
reader says:
Well guys sometimes you need to read books that are not specifically aimed at men.
I have just managed to get my husband to read Diana Gabaldon's book Cross Stitch (Outlander series its got a different title in the USA). It has already been mentioned in the Scottish history discussion.
It's a cross genre book, history, time travel,war/action/violence, romance(but not mushy romance). I read it because it was recommended on one of the discussion forums. I belong to an online book-club and there are many GUYS joining in the discussions of her books. If i had only ONE book to take on my desert Island this would be the book.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Feb 2014 22:00:13 GMT
LEP says:
For the type of books you have listed try going on Amazon Search, Books, above. Type in one of the books e.g. Shantaram. Then scroll down the page. You should see a horizontal listing of 'like' books. Some will be by the same author, but there will probably be others.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Feb 2014 11:43:04 GMT
British Bob says:
Try THE ROLY SAGAS by Parker Jon. Good story line. Good characters. All action page turners. There are five books in total at present

Posted on 3 Feb 2014 11:10:35 GMT
C. J. Taylor says:
Bernard Cornwells 'Warlord' Trilogy ( Arthurian Legend ) his novel 'Stonehenge' and the 'Warrior Chronicles' series are brilliant.

Conn Igguldens 'Emperor' and 'Conqueror' series are fantastic as well.

Posted on 1 Sep 2013 14:59:27 BDT
B. Ellis says:
I read the white tiger last week, about Indian living in Dehli who wants to become an entrepreneur and is frustrated by the limitations imposed on him by the class hierarchy in India. Would recommend it.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Aug 2013 17:55:15 BDT
Thanks for the offer - I greatly appreciate it. If you contact me via my website, that would be best. But don't send/attach the document through the web site, I'll reply to you with a different email address which will be secure and convenient. I look forward to reading it.
Regards, David

Posted on 23 Aug 2013 14:32:46 BDT
David Barnes says:
I am currently writing my autobiography at the request of some close friends not because I feel the world desperately wants to know about an unknown writer.
My first recollections were at about two possibly three years of age in 1939/1940. I have just about completed the period covering WWII and the peace immediately post war. It is copyright registered but if it will help you to know how young children were affected by the war and to some extent their reactions to what was happening, then I will happily send it to you. It covers the years 1939 to 1946.
I will need a secure email address, the document is nearly 18,000 words in length and I expect the finished horror story will be in excess of 100,000, there is a period 0f 40 years during which I drove a taxi in London so you can guess at what tales I have to tell but being a gentleman, I will not name names.
Regards, David Barnes.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Aug 2013 16:29:52 BDT
It is worth remembering that given what an average is, some people would have lived to a respectable age, although for others, of course, life was nasty, brutal and remarkably short! I know what you mean about killing people off - this was necessary for the plot in my first novel and it was very hard to do! On the positive side, I sometimes find characters suddenly appear taking small parts in my narrative and end up growing so much in my mind that they end up having short stories written for them of their own!
Strange that you should mention the Blitz. I'm fascinated by the social history of the Second World War and very much enjoy doing my research - the current novel begins at the tail end of the war. In my last, the way in which bomber crews were treated after the event - which I think was shameful - gets a bit of airtime.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Aug 2013 16:10:00 BDT
David Barnes says:
We are living in the same universe, I have the same problems but mine are made worse by the fact that in the third of the series I need to jump forward from the first to the second Roman Invasion of Britain so I have the added problem of working out whether the new characters are children, grandchildren or great grandchildren. I have to be careful because it is complicated by the fact that in the Iron Age, average life spans were about 25% shorter than they are now. I am going to have to take Marcus's advice and kill one or two off but I hate letting my characters go, something most writers suffer from I am told.
In my case it's tantamount to suicide, I am 76 and I'm planning to kill off people from old age who are still in their middle to late fifties.
I'm old enough to write about myself and call that an historical novel. If ever you need to research the WWII London Blitz, ask me, I was there!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Aug 2013 14:57:11 BDT
I sympathise. The novel I am currently writing concerns only three generations but I find I need to construct family trees to keep track of where I am and make everything believable. Alongside this I find working with a detailed time line is important to get ages rights, allow for sufficient time between marriages, births etc. especially when, as I do, I want to tie these things in with real events as I build my narrative around them. Mind you, having done all that I do find that my characters take on a life of their own sometimes and do things which force me to re-plan! The best laid plans....

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Aug 2013 14:27:34 BDT
Cheers! :-)

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Aug 2013 11:53:14 BDT
David Barnes says:
Marcus, thank you for that, it is indeed food for thought. One of the leading characters in Albions Children is a retired Roman Legionnaire who originally came from Cornwall. The Name he was given by the Legion was Marcus Britanicus, I shall keep his name alive throughout the series, just for you, a sort of acknowledgement for your help.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 Aug 2013 10:33:30 BDT
Not sure this really belongs in this thread, or even forum, but anyway ...

Kill off unwanted scions in the Black Death! :-)

Slightly less facetiously - there are all sorts of reasons why you don't have to end up with thousands of members of families. Mortality rates were relatively high before modern medicine, and there were plenty of wars and plagues that reduced the population. Childhood mortality was rife, and so you don't need to assume that more than one in four children even survives childhood, let alone adulthood.

And, to be honest ... just leave out branches of the family that you don't want to include.

Posted on 22 Aug 2013 07:29:08 BDT
David Barnes says:
Writing an historical series is difficult. I have started writing number 3 in mine and hit a snag. I wanted the personalities of the characters to continue, right through British history from the Iron Age to the present day so decided to use descendants. So what's the problem. Genetics! As a group, the people I am writing about worked well but it was a small roundhouse settlement and I find in preparing the characters and keeping the names alive to avoid confusing both myself and the reader I have to build a family tree so that I don't end up with brother marrying sister, father marrying daughter and so on. It's taking time. I am beginning to wonder if I should change the names of the next generations before my cerebral synapses blow. I don't want it to become a time slip series, it would make the whole thing unbelievable and I also want to limit the number of totally new characters otherwise by the time I reach the Eighteenth Century I will a couple of thousand heroes and heroines. If only they had invented contraception in the iron age...what am I saying! I probably wouldn't be here if they had!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Aug 2013 06:37:49 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Aug 2013 10:05:27 BDT
Selene says:
I don't think cardboard characters, stereotypes and/or poor writing are exclusive to female authors - there are definitely male equivalents out there, and sorry, but imo Stewart Binns' "Conquest" is a classic example. Jack Ludlow's another who comes to mind.

Posted on 24 Jul 2013 09:40:55 BDT
J. P. Ferry says:
If I could be so bold, I think you'd like After Omdurman by John Ferry (full disclosure - that's me!), which is about to be published by Robert Hale Publishing as a Kindle editionAfter Omdurman. It centres on the British re-conquest of the Sudan in 1898, culminating in the famous Battle of Omdurman, with the lead character, Major Winters, attempting to track down a saboteur intent on halting General Kitchener's advance.

Posted on 19 Jul 2013 14:51:50 BDT
B. Farrell says:
you can`t go wrong reading stewart binns conquest series about a real english hero , hereward of bourne or james wilde`s trilogy on the same man , bernard cornwell or conn iggulden for brilliant consistency in all they do , ben kane if rome is your thing , steven pressfield if ancient greece is your thing then gates of fire as to be up there with one of the best books ever , theres masses of choice and loads of quality about

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jul 2013 14:41:50 BDT
B. Farrell says:
totally agree on gordon doherty excellent writer , can`t comment on the others though

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jul 2013 14:40:07 BDT
B. Farrell says:
brilliant set of books , can`t wait for next month for the next instalment

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jul 2013 23:27:00 BDT
Nigel Tranter; Nicholas Monstserrat's Master Mariner series; Bernard Cornwall of course, Amitav Gosh is pretty good as well. "Things fall apart" By the late Chinua Achebe is brilliant. Hope that inspires you!

(I also write action packed Historical fiction, and write what I like to read,)

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jul 2013 22:40:12 BDT
C. T. Burton says:
Try John Harris who also wrote 3 excellent wartime trilogies under the name max hennessey. Also, John Masters is an ex soldier who wrote some fine historical miltary based novels such as Man of War, as well as a couple of autobiographies about Burma and india, which are worth a read.
If you want to try something different try GA Henty, who wrote prolifically in the 1850-1910, stories with serious miltary and historic background. Although aimed at schoolboys they are good stories and give good insight into victorian views as well as well researched historical detail.(Henty is out of copyright and available free at Gutenberg website). You will also find here some of Conan Doyle's lesser known work such as the White Company, which i discovered recently and enjoyed.


Posted on 10 Jul 2013 06:45:58 BDT
For a bit of 20th century Historical Fiction, there's 'Running with Crows - The Life and Death of a Black & Tan' by DJ Kelly. Based on the true story of the only B&T hanged for murder during the Irish war of Independence, it follows Wm Mitchell from his life in Dublin's worst slum and red light district to army service in India, riding like the Pathans, pig-sticking etc then through the trenches of World War 1, brushing up against the law and passing through brothels and prisons, en route back to Ireland, where his fate awaits him.

Posted on 7 Jul 2013 15:44:33 BDT
The Van

Check this book out...the author appeared as the History Professor in the movie SPRING BREAKERS with James Franco and Selena Gomez.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2013 17:29:45 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Jul 2013 17:30:53 BDT
PG says:
The Hawkwood Books are written by James McGee..not McPhee!
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