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Initial post: 27 Aug 2012 11:56:48 BDT
John says:
So if I've got this right, the studios expect to replace digital copies with a version of the movie you can stream, and they expect that is good enough?

What planet do these idiots come from?

They expect me to be happy with a 'copy' I don't get to keep and can only watch if I have internet access? How is that 'watch everywhere and anywhere'?

They have no chance of combating piracy with ultraviolet... and TBH their idiocy and they fact they think we're idiots too just wants me to start ripping everything in site.

Posted on 27 Aug 2012 20:27:14 BDT
did i read somwewhere also in eu this wont work at all anyway its only works in usa

if so how can legally untraviolet be sold ??

surely its in uk trades description act

agree with above this is why i also hate bd live to me all specials and extras should be on the blu ray not on an internet site i have to connect to via my blu ray what a load of hassle

Posted on 27 Aug 2012 23:03:04 BDT
JBurd says:
UV copies can be streamed at home or downloaded to use when you are away or have no internet access that is how you can watch anywhere. All you need is the internet to register your copy like you do with other digital versions.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Aug 2012 00:06:46 BDT
Bourne1886 says:
It works in the UK. Films can be watched on Android and Apple products. I have a number of films that I can watch offline. I do not need to stream them. They are on my device to watch when ever I want. These are the facts.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Aug 2012 00:39:54 BDT
M. Freeman says:
I'm pretty sure that UV can't be put on MP4 players though? The only reason I'd ever want a digital copy in the first place.

Posted on 28 Aug 2012 23:03:08 BDT
T Wong says:
You need a Flixster app in order to download or stream onto your mobile device. Works fine.

Posted on 29 Aug 2012 14:40:55 BDT
D. Pugh says:
I very much dislike this UltraViolet trend. I've ended up having two extra programmes on my PC, and two extra apps on my iPad just to be able to watch two UltraViolet films - they happen to be from different studios, so want to each have their own thing on the PC. Every time I turn on my PC now one of them accesses the internet to check my account - it doesn't ask me first.

When you download the film onto your PC they don't ask where to download to - it is automatically into the program they set on your PC - which they don't offer options of drive or folder when that is done. I have a SMALL c: drive. I put all media on my e: drive, but can't do anything with UltraViolet. You can't move the film even if you can find it where they hide it.

You can't access your UltraViolet account through Apple TV, nor through anything on my Sony TV. So, I can only watch the films on my PC, or have to download AGAIN to my iPad, as you can't transfer it between anything.

iTunes works perfectly for me. But UltraViolet isn't in any way, shape or form compatible with it.

I'm now NOT buying films when they only have the UltraViolet digital copy, I'm actively avoiding them. I'll wait until they are released without UV to make a point.

But, I am continuing to order all possible iTunes compatible BluRays with digital copies to have on the release date.

Please studios, read our comments!

Posted on 29 Aug 2012 15:42:36 BDT
C. Gould says:
Yes studios, please read our comments. Mine are 'please continue to use UV copies rather than forcing me to have anything to do with Apple and their terrible iTunes app or any of the other proprietary apps that have previously been used'. UV is far more flexible than any other form of Digital Copy, even if they're all fairly redundant. It's a unified delivery system; something that Digital Copies have been crying out for (and we don't all use Apple products).

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Aug 2012 16:13:25 BDT
D. Pugh says:
Far from unified, unfortunately. If it was I could use it.

Posted on 29 Aug 2012 17:28:19 BDT
Davey says:
if studios are reading please stop this ultraviolet stuff, its lower quality than my itunes or windows version that is offered and it just a horrible concept.

Posted on 30 Aug 2012 13:37:22 BDT
T Wong says:
At least for the 4 Universal titles (Battleship, Marley, Contraband and Safe House) they are offering both UV copy and itune digital copy at the same time.

Posted on 30 Aug 2012 15:13:04 BDT
Davey - what's wrong with the concept of being able to stream a movie online or download it and watch it offline?

Posted on 30 Aug 2012 19:34:05 BDT
hippo says:
"please stop this ultraviolet stuff, its lower quality than my itunes or windows version that is offered and it just a horrible concept"
Not sure what Davey is on about- Ultraviolet allows you to watch in 1080p HD. iTunes & Windows digital copies have always been SD ONLY!

I'm no fan of Ultraviolet, but please don't make things up.

Posted on 2 Sep 2012 09:41:38 BDT
I cant even get to download mine UV copies ... Too complicated if you ask me ... Do we really need digital copies or dvd copies ... Just give us the straight forward blu ray copy, and do us all a favour and reduce the price of blu ray !!!

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Sep 2012 10:19:53 BDT
Yes Mr Lovatt, I go with what you've said there. All you really want is the Blu ray disc isn't it? I can't see the other disc being removed from the box any time soon.

Posted on 2 Sep 2012 10:22:46 BDT
Last edited by the author on 2 Sep 2012 10:23:29 BDT
DomTH says:
I picked up Batman Begins on Blu-ray, signed up for the accounts but can't get the Ultraviolet to download! Given up!

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Sep 2012 08:41:21 BDT
Thats the same with me, just couldnt seem to get any further than that .. I ended up logging myself out of the accounts ... What a complete and waste of time.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Sep 2012 08:44:32 BDT
Its such a shame, as they are a waste of a disc, of all the blu rays ive brought, dont think ive ever used the dvd copy, although i have used a couple of digital copies in the past, when they were itunes files. But then ive prob never watched the digital copies. Waste of money and a waste of a disc.

Posted on 3 Sep 2012 18:25:02 BDT
Why not UV & a digital copy to satisfy (nearly) everyone?

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Sep 2012 18:29:36 BDT
D. Pugh says:
A few films have come out with both, which is great. Shame it isn't all!

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Sep 2012 02:16:24 BDT
R-D says:
All Universal Blu-Ray+DVD+iTunes Digital Copy+UltraViolet Digital Stream and Universal 3D+Blu-Ray+DVD+iTunes Digital Copy+UltraViolet Digital Stream combo packs have an iTunes Digital Copy AND UltraViolet. So you have a choice. Lionsgate has started this choice too. And every Paramount Blu-Ray+Dvd+Digital Copy+UltraViolet and 3D+Blu-Ray+DVD+Digital Copy+UltraViolet are watch anytime, anywhere because of the iTunes Digital Copy code also doubling as UltraViolet.

Posted on 4 Sep 2012 10:35:47 BDT
Louis Wales says:
In America there is already a system were you can buy a film with a UV copy ( its called something else and can't be bothered to find it ) but also you can back date all of you'r dvd's that you own to a digital for $2 per film or upgrade it to a HD copy for $4 or $5. In the UK things always take of slow but the plan is by all the studio's is to sell you a blu ray/DVD with there own digital copy that will be run by UltraViolet and if you don't want to replace you'r old DVD's you will be able to buy a digital version of it too for around 2, i think its safe to say getting a HD digital version is well off from happening.
There is a problem with iTunes and its not cross platform and UltraViolet will be and gives you an option to download or stream you'r movie on the go, not only that flixtser that plays you'r movies will be offered as an app on many smart TV's, Blu Ray players , consoles , PVR's , Tablets and phones in the future and not forgetting you can share all you'r digital films with you'r friends.

Posted on 4 Sep 2012 11:39:12 BDT
Last edited by the author on 10 Sep 2012 18:42:53 BDT
I did try Ultraviolet myself, and to be honest, I simply found it to be too much bother, just to watch a film.

This makes interesting reading...

OK, so I gave it another try.
I logged into Flixsture. My ID was still valid.
Downloaded Sherlock Holmes - Game of shadows to my computer 2.7GB file. Note that this is in standard definition.
You will need to download the Flixsture program to play it on your computer.
Well, it has been loading for ages, but does not start... Mid you, I am running the developer's edition of Windows 8.... Iwill try it on Windows 7.
At the same time, I installed the Flixster app to my phone (Android)
Cannot log in. It says my password, and user ID are not correct.

So far cannot play on my PC, or my phone.

Ultraviolet 2, MikeyD 0

I will be back will a Windows 7 update

OK... 20 minutes later
Rebooted in to Windows 7.
Logged in, installed, downloaded...... and watched... phew
Actually, the quality is quite good.

Pros... I can watchit on my computer.... 24" Iiyama 1920*1200 resolution, so no messing about there.

Cons: Cannot log-in on the app, to try on my phone... I will keep trying, and report back.
I would like to watch on my TV. Currently, I use me xBox to log into mediaplayer, and stream that way.

It does help if you download the right program!
Downloaded Netflix instead of Flixster (duh)
All plays OK on my phone (HTC One X - Android) Looks good too :-)

All works OK, but to be honest, I can see myself using my DVD dripper, to place it on my drive. That way, I can watch it with anything.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Sep 2012 11:56:47 BDT
D. Pugh says:
Really good article you've linked to. I cringed in sympathy, having gone through a similar set of problems myself to try UV.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Sep 2012 13:48:06 BDT
C. Gould says:
How is it not unified? It's a cross-platform, standardised delivery method. I don't have to install Flux Player, Plays Everywhere, or any of the other distributor-specific apps. Just whack the Flixter app on and everything in the library is available from one location to either stream or download. I have a number of titles from Universal and Warner in mine (I haven't bought any UV titles from other distributors yet), which took seconds to add using the supplied codes and are available across all of my devices.

I'm not particularly fond of digital copies, but so far UV is the best implementation of the technology I've seen. I really don't understand why people have so much trouble with it.
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