indiana jones box set

Does anyone have any info re The Indiana Jones Box Set Blu Ray regarding the cuts that have been in place re the Temple Of Doom that have been in place since the movies first release, if these cuts are to remain in place I for one will then only consider an import that has not been censored. Take note BBFC stop treating us like little children

No information yet. Keep looking on the BBFC site as it might be resubmitted and you would see 'All previous cuts waived'
1min 6 seconds was cut according to BBFC but may have been substitute shots put in. Here is a good summary of the cuts and subs
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4643

What's been cut out of the films??

The scene in the underground temple when the native is lowered in to the lava, prior to his death... in the censored version you see the baddie holding up his burning heart for all to see, when the uncut print show you more of the torture by way of the heart been seen torn from his body, also when Indy is being forced to drink the poison his young sidekick is also whipped and slapped or punched, I can't remember so I will have to refer to my USA dvd version. Also as M.Lock has advised the site www.movie-censorship.com is a good place to find out most of the stupid decision re movie censorship

That scary heart-removal scene has been cut for your own good. Your eyes and brain simply can't be trusted to watch such horrorific scenes. Apparently, there's a "risk" an "adult" "might" "copy" "what" "they" "see" "on" "the" "telly". Eek!

Aaah, man. If they're cut stuff out I'm going to Hulk smash. It's like Lucas adds and edits stuff and Spielberg removes stuff O_O

Just to clarify, the cuts that have been made to The Temple Of Doom were carried out on order of the british board of film classification and not by Spielberg or Lucas.
This does not justify our being treated like mushrooms

Whoa, hold on a minute - can't *really* blame the BBFC for that one..

Sure, the BBFC cut huge chunks out of The Temple of Doom, but you have to remember that back in 1984 when the film was released there was no middle-ground "12" certificate. Paramount had a choice between a PG (with over a minute of cuts) or an uncut 15. Unsurprisingly, they chose the PG rating (can you imagine the second Indiana Jones film opening with no-one under 15 being allowed into cinemas to see it?!) and the BBFC cut the film accordingly so Paramount could have the family-friendly PG rating that they needed.

Temple of Doom was the film that caused the American ratings board to bring in the new PG-13 rating, so it wasn't just the BBFC that considered the uncut version to be too strong for a PG rating. It pushed the boundaries of the PG rating on both sides of the Atlantic. America solved the problem their way, by inventing a new rating; the UK solved the problem their way, by heavily cutting the film to fit their existing rating. And, sadly, the film has stayed cut in the UK ever since.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the UK Blu-ray release. We're not talking about one headbutt, as with the Attack of the Clones - we're talking about over a minute of "nasty" material. The film is now 28 years old, so a whole generation of British viewers have only ever seen the "sanitised" version. That's the version they know, and that's probably how they'll expect the film to be.

I'm worried that, after so long, there may be some pressure to keep the film "the way it's always been" in the UK, so unsuspecting families don't sit down to watch the nice Indiana Jones film that they think they know, and find themselves wondering where all that extra heart-ripping, sacrifice slow-roasting, kid-whipping (etc, etc) stuff came from...

If pages of The Sun were censored, Jordan and Mercedes Stella-Artois would be ranting like its going out of fashion about censorship and freedom of bloody speech yet films, even adult material (and not just xxx stuff) continues to be censored in the Uk. Do we really need the Bbfc in 2012?

It wasn't always censored in the UK. When I was a kid i saw those scenes, but can't remember if it was shown on tv or not.

I still think we need the BBFC because not everybody is capable of making the right decisions. Hopefully it will be passed uncut though,maybe as a seemless branching version,so there is a choice for families and adults.

The reason for my original question was to encourage the debate re the BBFC and it;s place with regard to censorship in the current climate.. As always you guys never let me down and I am glad to see that the subject in hand still arouses our passion and our right to make up our own minds. I for one agree with some of your comments and shall offer this as my own person view. When Mr S Spielberg made and edited The Temple Of Doom I honestly believe that he should have stood by his vision of the final product at that time and now. With regard to the BBFC I feel that there primary function should now be that of sensible classification and not the moral judge jury and hangman of the James Ferman era and those before him. Anyway it will not be the first time that a movie or movies will have been resubmitted and re-released uncut. for example all of the Bruce Lee movies, Die Hard and several others.
For what it is worth your comments have been the best..

TA FOR NOW

Thanks mate.

The BBFC can be really helpful though, when a studio wants a specific rating for a film (presumably for money, target demographic etc). The BBFC can see the film before editing is finished, and advise what needs to be done for it to meet the intended rating. This is the most frequent case in which films are cut, films are rarely cut nowadays because they are 'indecent'.

You are indeed correct in as much that the pre-edit of The Temple Of Doom was not avail able to the BBFC at the time due to the film release being several weeks behind the US release and therefore the edit process had already been completed prior to any submission to the BBFC. The pre-edit process has been in use for some time now, but throughout the 1960,s, 70,s 80,s and up to the mid 90,s the majority of movies from the USA were classified after the edit had been completed due to my previous comment. Still it is good to see that the debate rumble on, Keep on questioning everything, it pisses of the establishment, but mostly the numpties who follow on blindly.
Keep up the good work
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It's interesting that Amazon say there will be French subtitles on all the disks. If that is right then I think it will be uncut, but it may well be wrong. For my money the best bet is the US or French release. They will be uncut and as it's Paramount they will be region free (the French release will be compatible with Region B anyway).

Anyone know the difference between the £45 and the £65 box set? Places like Play.com and Amazon are keeping zipped tight about what the boxes actually look like, special features etc.

Apparently the more expensive set is available online only, so you can order it here (or elsewhere) but you won't find it in shops. That's one difference...

The "over 6 hours of bonus content" that I presumed was going to be on an extra disc exclusive to the more expensive set (a bit like the Star Wars 1-6 Blu-ray set) is, according to several Blu-ray sites, included whichever version you get.

So, difference-wise, that just leaves ... the "soon to be announced exclusive memorabilia" - whatever that turns out to be! (They haven't announced what it is yet...)

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Uncut Temple of Doom? As in things like the heart scene aren't taken out? That could of bean a deal breaker for me. Yeah, I'm not one to pre-order-buy sets with figures, statues, extra books with them etc. Especially as the prices as you say, are scandalous.

The most simple solution is to buy the U.s version as most paramount titles are region free.

In the U.s they can release a longer version of a movie without having to submit the extended cut to the censor,they just label the movie as "unrated",wheras in the U.k cost comes into it as each new release with a longer running time has to be re classified by the B.B.F.C.

No, the easiest solution is to buy the UK version.
Amazon (& Play.com) have updated the product description & confirm that the UK version IS uncut
"Alongside this, for the first time ever on Blu-ray, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is presented in its uncut format, 28 years after it was first released in cinemas. The original release was cut in 1984 in the UK to obtain a PG rating, however fans can now witness all the gory cut extras in all their glory".

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Since TOD is uncut, I'm plumping for the UK set. UK age ratings on the disc shouldn't bother you, as the disc will be in the Blu-ray player when you're watching the film! ;-p

US version is too rich for me I'm afraid.
Think it's $75 on Amazon.com, add on P&P & customs charges, it's around £60.
Hopefully, there'll be some good offers & vouchers around in the UK leading up to the release so I can pick up the set for under £40.

It would be cheaper and easier to just get the UK release, but I ain't touching it with a bargepole (bullwhip?) until I see a new "previous cuts waived" rating for Temple of Doom on the BBFC website.

As of right now, the BBFC haven't been near that film since 1992 when they passed the widescreen version for home release as a PG with the comment "UK Cinema Version as cut."

the us version is the best bet. it may be all region.