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Initial post: 12 Jul 2012 12:31:19 BDT
LEP says:
Isn't it marvelous how much new you can learn from books and TV progs? Why last Sunday I was watching Once Upon a Time on TV, and one of the characters informed another that he'd seen Lemurs in the Himalas (can't spell)! Well, unless he visited a zoo, that was quite a feat, as Lemurs ONLY live in Madacasca.

I wonder if the script writers were mixing Lemurs up with Larmurs (sp?), the wooly pack animals? No idea if they have those in the H, they do in the Andes.
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Posted on 12 Jul 2012 14:38:12 BDT
Karen Stewart says:
Lemurs definitely don't live in the Himalayas. Neither do llamas according to Wiki, they live in the Andes. I read a book by Isabel Allende about the Himalayas (Kingdom of the Golden Dragon), there are Yetis there! But could it have been a Lama (as in Dalai Lama) in the Himalayas?

It is true that there are Wallabies in Scotland though (if they have not yet been culled for the sake of the capercaillie). On an island in Loch Lomond.
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 18:48:10 BDT
LEP says:
No, the character described these animals in Himalyas, definately Lemurs. Ignorant lot these American scriptwriters. I know it's a fantasy, but....... LOL.
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Posted on 12 Jul 2012 18:55:22 BDT
VCBF (Val) says:
Lemurs - Madagascar, but most are extinct or endangered.
Llamas - South America / Andes.
Lamas - India, but should be in Tibet, if Tibet was not also extinct or endangered.
Yetis - Himalayas, or not.
There is a statue in Lima of Liberty, with a llama (llama) on her head, instead of the requested llama (flame) on her head. http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/South_America/Peru/South/Lima/Lima_Centro/photo836900.htm
Wallabies - not extinct or endangered, and in all sorts of places they don't belong.
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 19:14:57 BDT
LEP says:
As I said, someone hasn't done their research for the script. Now any children watching the prog will think that there are Lemurs in the Himalayas.

I remember reading a novel once by an American author, set in the UK, who reckoned that skunks and raccoons were indiginous to the UK countryside. Good research that, just take a few American animals and transpose them. I know that we have grey squirrels imported from the USA, but I don't think we as yet have raccoons or skunks roaming around.
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 19:48:47 BDT
gille liath says:
Isn't it marvellous what utter confusion you can encounter on an internet forum?
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Posted on 12 Jul 2012 19:50:13 BDT
Sou'Wester says:
A much older but famous example is from the song "There'll be Blue Birds Over the White Cliffs of Dover," often regarded as a quintessentially English song, but with lyrics written by an American who had no idea that we don't have Bluebirds! (Mark you, "There'll be Sparrows Over the White Cliffs of Dover" doesn't have quite the same ring to it).
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Posted on 12 Jul 2012 20:09:20 BDT
M. Dowden says:
Sou'Wester, it should have been 'There'll be Gulls Crapping Over the White Cliffs of Dover'. : )
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 20:19:33 BDT
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gille liath says:
'Factual inaccuracy in pop song / TV drama': hold the front page!
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 20:38:14 BDT
LEP says:
I don't think "There'll be Blue Tits Over the White Cliffs of Dover" has quite the same ring, although it would be more accurate.
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 20:42:33 BDT
LEP says:
Reign in the sarcasm Gille, difficult for you I know, but try for once!
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 20:48:57 BDT
gille liath says:
Actually I have been reining it in on this thread: very much so.
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In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jul 2012 20:58:49 BDT
Marcus Pailing (Bartlesnipe's Revenge) says:
Especially with the cold weather we've been having!
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 10:50:54 BDT
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Frank Mundo says:
I saw some articles where one of the writers was interviewed and he hinted about the lemurs signaling important events to come. These are the same writers of the show Lost who had similar foreshadowing with polar bears that seemed out of place as well. All he said was to pay close attention to the lemurs. This could mean that the character telling the story is lying and unreliable.
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 12:36:41 BDT
LEP says:
Ah! Well it was the mystery newcomer to Storybook who was telling the Lemur story.
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 15:38:05 BDT
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M. Jolliff says:
Are you aware that Lemur's were once regarded as the most highly evolved (highly intelligent) lifeform on Pangea and that their reduced range down to Madagascar is due to being out evolved after Pangea's breakup? Not to their only ever existing there and never anywhere else.
I remember reading a sci-fi paranoid conspiracy novel where they had retained there position as highest (Conflating the Legends of Lemuria and Atlantis) and were secretly running the world (probably from Tibet hence Lama/Lemur). All very David Icke. Sounds like the writers of Once Upon A Time have read the same book.
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 15:38:56 BDT
Frank Mundo says:
Yup, I think it's a set-up for something interesting (hopefully)...although once they revealed the polar bears on Lost, I was already very lost myself, and I had to go to the Lost chat rooms to figure out what the heck was going on. We'll see :)
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 17:31:18 BDT
LEP says:
Trouble with Once upon a Time Frank, is that it's too long. Especially since they are talking about filming another series of it. Instead of trying to bring in as many fairytales as possible, they should have perhaps kept it to Snow
White, the wicked queen, the Prince, Grumpy, Emma and her son and perhaps Rumplestilkskin, although he isn't in the original fairytale. Kept it to 12 episodes, then done other characters in the next series. It is getting a little boring now and as yet they haven't developed the Mystery Biker at all, except for the Himalayan Lemurs of last week.

At first I thought he may be the father of the little boy (name escapes me). However, surely Emma would have recognised him?
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 18:39:42 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
"Lemurs definitely don't live in the Himalayas. Neither do llamas according to Wiki, they live in the Andes"

There's one type of llama that lives in the Himalayas (or there abouts). The Dalai Llama. Fact!
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 18:43:08 BDT
Karen Stewart says:
I did mention him! He's the spiritual leader of Llamas all over the world! Hope he doesn't spit as much as the average llama though, they are just plain rude!
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 18:49:53 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
Ah, too quick off the mark. I should've read the whole post. I did once hear that penguins live in Hawaii. (I think that one is true).
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 19:13:52 BDT
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Karen Stewart says:
As do polar bears, as mentioned above discussing Lost! I can't believe there are penguins in Australia too, it doesn't compute as I always imagine them in the snow.
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 19:48:30 BDT
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gille liath says:
Yes, but is any of that mentioned in Once Upon A Time?

Actually, you know - I'm pretty sure Pangaea had long since broken up by the time lemurs evolved. But that's certainly true about them being out-competed by monkeys etc, except on Managascoigne - which had already separated from the African mainland before monkeys evolved.
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 19:49:39 BDT
gille liath says:
I'd give it up, mate - you can't possibly compete with the first couple of posts.
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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2012 20:17:58 BDT
M. Jolliff says:
I have no idea Gille. I don't watch it. (Well, I watched the first one but I kept expecting House to turn up so I gave up) but being as it is a fantasy based on the idea of fairy tale characters existing unknowingly in a universe that bears a striking similarity to our own the underlying sciento/histo-mythology (ie rules of potential possibility) are obviously not going to be the ones we supposedly operate under. In other words LEP is (possibly deliberately) missing the point.
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