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In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 02:12:19 BDT
It's such a shame, Don.

I'm desperately sorry for Cody. Hope she not just recovers but gains strength from it.

Small minds will always need to burn someone at the stake, I'm afraid.

Posted on 4 Oct 2011 02:31:50 BDT
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Posted on 4 Oct 2011 06:13:36 BDT
Listen to this, you guys!! My first novel is doing rather well. It's been out since 2005, and is still selling strongly. Its Kindle version on Amazon.co.uk has only ONE like. It's got no reviews. It's never been tagged. And just look at its ranking! Death in Malta. This is proof to me that all the fuss we make about reviews, tags, likes and so on are virtually useless for SOME books. Now you might ask me why this book sells so well and what I've done about it. Well - I'm asking myself the same thing. The book I promote most of all is my second novel, and it's not yet reached that momentum, although it had good sales in August. Go figure!

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 09:00:25 BDT
Good for you, Rosanne.

Hope your second novel does as well.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 10:07:41 BDT
Hi Mary, good luck with your book.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 15:32:36 BDT
Thanks, Mira. It was a long time ago we first spoke on a forum and you encouraged me to go for it then - as did Lexi.

Posted on 4 Oct 2011 15:36:21 BDT
Thank you Mira - at the moment the titles of mine that are doing best are my debut novel, and a collection called Counting Churches - The Malta Stories. I think it's because I got in touch with communities of Maltese ex-pats in Canada and the US. I think I might see if there are any in the UK.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 16:06:54 BDT
Lexi says:
That was because I remembered reading the start of No More Mulberries long ago on YouWriteOn and how good it was.

Lexi
Remix
Replica

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 17:12:05 BDT
Rosanne,
Yes, there are quite a few Maltesian ex-pats but I don't know if the form any kind of tight-knit community anywhere. It's certainly worth a try. They might have a page on FB.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 17:13:57 BDT
Mary,

I'll download it just as soon as I clear the decks a bit.
Looking forward to it.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2011 19:47:28 BDT
carocaro says:
Hi Mira guess your keyboard contact's a little like me then slightly worn out! Good to communicate as I enjoy following these forums. :0)

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2011 09:14:38 BDT
Well done. Rosanne.

Posted on 5 Oct 2011 10:53:57 BDT
My debut novel (which was published in 2005) is doing much better than any of my other more recent books this month - it looks like my fans on the European continent are lining up! Great sales on Amazon.de
Thanks, Joanna - sometimes a book just takes off!

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2011 15:03:32 BDT
Rosanne, did your book take off right from the starting gate or did it take all this time to be discovered? If the latter, I guess I have a few more years to go before my books take off.

Joyce
Serendipity House
Where Dreams are Born

Posted on 5 Oct 2011 15:16:25 BDT
Hello Joyce! Thanks for your invitation to take a look at your collection - I have too much work to do at the moment, but I shall have a sample soon. Busy week!

Death in Malta has had its ups and downs, like any book, but it's not a sprint, it's a marathon, and it's been selling on a sort of slow simmer since about the second year, yes. It took a real spurt when I started promoting According to Luke about a year ago, and it's been doing well ever since. It sometimes sells many more that ATL, especially in paperback. I do expect the same to happen to According to Luke when Camera Obscura comes out in a few months. According to my editor in chief at BeWrite Books, it takes a good 18 months for a novel to start warming up. Of course there are titles that shoot to the top really quickly - but can we realistically say this can happen to all books? Of course not.

Indeed - one of the big changes we have seen in publishing is the longevity of books. Since digital editions have come out, and POD, it means books never need go out of print. It's not like it used to be, that bookshops had to sell as many as they could in three months, and then it got taken off the shelves if it did not do well. This - believe it or not - is the shift that has really made a difference to the solo author.

So add to your list of titles, and take on the whole business as a long haul commitment. And measure your success in what you sell in a year... not three months! Good luck.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Oct 2011 17:16:06 BDT
Minijax says:
That's very interesting, Rosanne. My novel, Tainted Tree, is doing better than my first (novella), A Bottle of Plonk, both here and in the real world. Promoting on these boards has to be treading a very careful path, and promoting in a non-virtual way doesn't always come easy to modest introvert writers, does it? What sort of things did you do to promote According to Luke? I gave a talk this morning to a reading circle, which went well, but it's not always easy to find these opportunites. Even in libraries, from my experience, they are interested in the big names.

Posted on 6 Oct 2011 02:35:42 BDT
These boards are not really for promoting - they are great for gaining an understanding of what self-publishing entails, sharing information and knowledge (a very valuable aspect of the whole operation) and figuring out where your books fit in the whole grand scheme, and understanding who your competition is. These are some of the most important aspects that face the modern solo publisher. It's also very important to get one's head around the differences between doing it independently and enlisting the help (if you can get it) of a small press. Small presses are not all the same - one should be very careful to ensure that subsidy is avoided, for example.

While doing all this, we of course take notice of each other's titles. There are also a few readers floating around - they might take notice too. But if we relied on these boards alone for sales, we would not have much to speak of. Promotion does not consist of bombarding boards with the same old blurb over and over again. It might work for a year... but what then? Promotion works when the market you are aiming at is renewable and sustainable, just like fuel. When everyone on these boards has seen your title and blurb (for hundreds of times!), and decided to buy or not to buy, you have reached the limit of your expectations - that should never happen. The reading world is out there... not in here.

Posted on 6 Oct 2011 11:12:24 BDT
Minijax says:
That's all true, Rosanne, but you still haven't said what your promotion consists of, bearing in mind your book has been so successful.

Posted on 6 Oct 2011 11:42:30 BDT
Last edited by the author on 6 Oct 2011 11:42:58 BDT
Minijax - my books promote each other. The secret is to have many titles out there. If one of them gets a bit of success one week, people notice the others. Readers generally like to find authors they love, and try to read everything they have written... I also have a site and a blog (separate) that do a bit, and I do the usual social networking. I also do HEAPS of F2F promoting, and nothing in the world beats eyeball to eyeball. Never less than a book a year. More is better.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Oct 2011 12:14:11 BDT
Minijax says:
I agree about 'eyeball to eyeball'. But I'm afraid I'm not as prolific as you, Rosanne. Tainted Tree took three years of writing, and my latest WIP is emerging very slowly indeed.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Oct 2011 12:26:23 BDT
I Readalot says:
Just so you know Minijax don't worry about not being prolific, I am wary of authors who bring out books too close together, most of my favourite authors have at least 2 years between their books and some even more, let's face when you take into consideration the research, editing, proofing etc. it can be a long haul between getting the idea and publication. It really depends on the kind of book you are writing.

Posted on 6 Oct 2011 12:44:38 BDT
Minijax says:
Thanks for that reassurance, I Readalot. I must admit I was pretty obsessive about the more recent novel, Tainted Tree, reading it out at a writers' circle and prior to that at writing courses - making changes and doing rewrites after the various comments. It was time-consuming but ultimately satisfying since most people who've read it seem to have enjoyed it.

Best wishes,
Jackie

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Oct 2011 12:48:53 BDT
I Readalot

All that before you even mention fermentation.

Yes, I do like good wine. :-)

Posted on 6 Oct 2011 13:13:20 BDT
I Readalot says:
Minijax - no problem, you have some good reviews so it looks like the extra work has paid off.

Mira - I forgot about that one!

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Oct 2011 13:34:21 BDT
Minijax says:
Thanks, I Readalot.

Jackie
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