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In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jul 2013 22:52:18 BDT
monica says:
Well, *I* thought that was funny. A bit more amusing than not-amusing, at any rate.

What sort of people did Self think the chavistocracy? Googled w/out success--am guessing that chavistocracy might be set of people who are garish & crude & very er public but who have never been popularly thought of as chavs because they're rich/famous/Prince Harry/icons of pop culture? or are they simply people who are legends in a spiritual Essex?

Posted on 25 Jul 2013 11:46:26 BDT
Eok says:
I read the Great Gatsby by F Scott Fitzgerald for the first time last month. Should I pass on the film?

Posted on 25 Jul 2013 12:16:45 BDT
book worm says:
The books in my opinion are far better than the film, not a big film watcher only ones that matched the book and film to me was Sleepers and The Green Mile,

Worst one ever was flowers in the attic shocking film, have tried to watch da vinci code but couldn't get in to the film at all, think its because you read the book and you set the scene etc yourself then that's shattered when you watch the film, guess it may be better to watch film first read book 2nd?

Posted on 25 Jul 2013 15:31:14 BDT
timB says:
I usually prefer the books as they tend to be much more vivid than films.
I find movies that change things just for the sake of it quite irritating.
John Rambo is very dead at the end of First Blood, but in the film he survives several sequels.
The film of Catch 22 misses most of the books humour, but the worst culprit for me is the film of The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy. I can forgive making Trillian a brunette, but for Zaphod to have only 2 arms and 1 head is just ridiculous.

Posted on 25 Jul 2013 18:38:10 BDT
Ted One says:
I have to agree, largely, with Sou'Wester about the order you work in. Only occasionally have I been totally happy with a film seen after enjoying the book - even though I may consider the film good it is unlikely that the director's images will be the same as those I created while reading. The most successful film version that I recall from a lifetime (70 years) of serious reading was 'The Cruel Sea' which seemed perfect all those decades ago, and still does! Having read 'The Lord of the Ring' for the first time in the fifties I never believed that a satisfactory film version could be made, but it was - different but satisfactory. (A pity about 'The Hobbit' and keep away from 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.)

Many years ago, before I had learnt this lesson, I read everything written by C S Forrester, including 'The Gun' and then made the mistake of seeing 'The Pride and the Passion' a travesty of the original story starring one of my idols, Frank Sinatra. People who have never read the book assure me that it is an excellent film - not in my book!

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2013 01:53:23 BDT
Rowena says:
I thought The Name of the Rose was a pretty good film, but the book was one of the few I couldn't finish - I gave up after the author spent three pages describing the carvings on a door frame!

I liked Slumdog Millionaire, the book (Q&A) is better, but I still think it's a good adaptation. Even though a lot was changed, I could see why the changes were made. Strange how sometimes the best adaptations are the ones that change the most, like the original Total Recall, which is massively different from the short story it was based on (We Can Remember it for you Wholesale).

I always tend to prefer books, but I don't mind film or TV versions. I tend to look at them as just being a different way to tell a story. I still like to have a little moan about changes, because the filmed images are never going to match what's inside my head or be 100% accurate to the book, but to me that's almost part of the fun (though I still can't get over Jaime Lannister saying he "could care less" in the TV series of Game of Thrones!) Thankfully none of my favourite books have ever been turned into an really awful version though!

Posted on 28 Jul 2013 13:17:24 BDT
E. C. says:
Harry potter, books all the way!

Posted on 28 Jul 2013 15:16:18 BDT
CARTER says:
Psycho great film but even better book

Posted on 28 Jul 2013 18:04:47 BDT
E. C. says:
I always think thrillers and scary stuff would be better as film as you have the scary music in the background. Having said that, I haven't really read anything that's scared me!

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Aug 2013 02:26:58 BDT
Not really a film, but the tv series of Game of Thrones is much better than the books. The screen version obviously benefitted from the editing that was so lacking in the books

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Aug 2013 08:23:50 BDT
Sou'Wester says:
Interested in Ted One's comments as we seem to have one or two favourite books in common. I would agree that "The Cruel Sea" is an excellent film (arguably one of the best war films) but, of necessity, they had to leave an awful lot out and I still prefer the book. The problem is, reading the book now, it's almost impossible to imagine the key characters without conjuring up the way they were depicted in the film!
Forrester has generally been ill-served in screen though, to an extent, he was a willing "collaborator" in the process; he seemed quite happy to butcher three of his own Hornblower novels to write the screenplay for the rather weak 1950s film with a miscast Gregory Park in the lead role and even more badly miscast Virginia Mayo as Lady Barbara! As for the more recent television programmes, they seem so far removed from Forrester's books that they have little more than the hero's name in common.

Posted on 5 Aug 2013 18:45:20 BDT
Last edited by the author on 6 Aug 2013 16:33:31 BDT
G. D. Buxton says:
'The Runaway Jury' Movie is a far better film than the novel. The major change from the book and the film is that the book deals with smoking and the film deals with gun crime. The film is far more potent and Hits home as well as (at the end) moves you.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Aug 2013 11:34:41 BDT
paddy888 says:
Hi Monica, David and Victoria Beckham are the figure heads of the chavistocracy - but other celebs can be classified too, Martine McCutcheon, Danny Baker and endless others who endorse lifestyle products, foods, fads etc.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Aug 2013 11:54:25 BDT
TomC says:
"other celebs can be classified too"

I believe "slebs" is the preferred usage. It sounds like a name for something you'd see in your handkerchief after blowing your nose.

Posted on 6 Aug 2013 13:08:17 BDT
Gillian Sime says:
The Green Mile. I bought the book in parts as it was first published and it was great. The film doesn't have the same anticipation, however its just as good as the books. I think it's hugely important who is cast in the film - the wrong casting can bring the film down. This film was perfectly cast and I still watch it when it comes on TV even though I have the copy on DVD.

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In reply to an earlier post on 6 Aug 2013 20:14:01 BDT
It must be good then , because I think Cloud Atlas will turn out to be a future classic , totally brilliant read .
It was a complete fluke I came across it , my wife bought it for me from a jumble sale , didn't like the cover , but as I said the book is a classic in the making .
De Berniere's ' Captain Correlli's Mandolin ' was ten times better in book form , shame really .
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