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In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 16:26:18 BDT
Chris says:
well i do have a sense of humour you know so i don't mind... though i think you're saying you're laughing at me rather than with me.
so what if several people told you to get lost one after another? would that be, persons tell you to get lost? sounds weird.
by the way if I make grammatical errors, I dont mind having them pointed out. so if you were looking for a rise out of me on that, you're barking up the wrong tree.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 16:39:42 BDT
Ian Weaver says:
Chris
I too have a sense of humour but don't know you well enough to laugh at you, so I guess it must be with you. If I'm honest I am enjoying our exchanges and so long as it doesn't get personal or nasty then I see no harm in it. (more fun than trying to plug books all day!) As for grammatical errors - that was not my point - rather that you are the only one here telling us to get lost.
Ian

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 16:54:48 BDT
Chris says:
Fair enough but I was optimistically envisaging a world in which you Kindle people were being told to sod off all the time.

Posted on 9 Oct 2010 17:36:04 BDT
Ian Weaver says:
Chris,
I see, but I'm not just a 'kindle person' my book Time and Again is also available in paperback - d'oh, was that a plug; sorry.

Ian

Posted on 9 Oct 2010 17:44:22 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Oct 2010 17:53:18 BDT
Chris says:
JJG:
I accept that objecting to commercialism in a virtual shop seems foolish and futile, but I feel that the fiction forum might aswell not exist if it's just another sales area. And it seems the whole internet is slowly being turned into one big virtual shop. Music forums are the worst. They're overrun with people offering fake advice that is really just a sales pitch for some dodgy gadget or other.
The internet particularly seems saturated with commercialism and materialism. It just saddens me that modern culture has become so dominated by such shallow things.
BTW, I'm all for artists having more control over the selling of their art, but I agree that that isn't what's happening. There are some so called independent record labels that are nothing of the sort and are just covert branches of larger ones.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Oct 2010 18:09:28 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Oct 2010 18:15:05 BDT
donegalgirl says:
Chris

I'm with you on this aspect although the problem is not just confined to those promoting their kindle books. I have just given up on the self-pluggers thread on this forum. It is dominated by about a dozen people who repeatedly tout their books. A number don't even bother to change the text - it is merely cut & pasted from their previous ad, or they'll say something like ""its the weekend so if you want a good read, buy my book" and then paste in the standard blurb. I did see one interesting book (and only advertised once!) but it was published by Authorhouse and was over £12 for a paperback. If the price falls or it appears as a kindle book at a reasonable price then I'll probably buy it.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 May 2011 20:41:09 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 May 2011 20:56:40 BDT
Oops - original comment seems to have been cut up... I'll try again...

Chris - I think a lot of readers are pretty willing to try out new, indie authors once they have exhausted their favourites from "real publishers" as long as they can perhaps read a fair section first, find some reviews and the novel is cheap and easily available. - hence the Kindle and other e-reader successes.

A case in point is Sugar & Spice: The ground-breaking debut crime thriller - currently at about #3 kindle top ten sales and just passed 700,000 copies! Pretty unusual at the moment - granted - but maybe the future

In reply to an earlier post on 10 May 2011 01:54:20 BDT
donegalgirl says:
So says an indie author - a man so modest that his own book appears first in his 'Greatest YA Fantasy' list!

As to your point about "real publishers", I really am struggling with the concept of running out of favourites from these publishers. I had well over 2000 books on my wish list the last time I looked, more than enough for a lifetime. These are books which will have been properly edited & proof-read. Sadly my experience of self-published works is that they are almost universally dismal. The kindle has made it easy to put out work - but the absence of a gatekeeper means the quality isn't there. I have never viewed the kindle as a way of finding new authors/genres - it is just a convenient way of reading books, or getting access to books long out of print and particularly for cutting down on weight when travelling but still being able to have a good choice of books. I thought the sampling facility might be useful at the beginning, in maybe trying some indie books, but the quality has been so woeful that I don't bother any more.

Posted on 10 May 2011 10:36:54 BDT
Fiona Hurley says:
I think there are ways to promote without being obnoxious:
- Contribute to the threads that have been specifically set up for promotion. Don't open a new thread just to promote your book.
- Mention your book in the body of threads only where relevant. For example, in your case you would mention your book in threads about time-travel or war stories, but not to threads about crime stories or romance.
- Add a non-obtrusive link at the end of your posts.

Posted on 11 May 2011 09:40:36 BDT
Karen Lowe says:
The title of this thread makes me think of the hedgehog joke, i.e. how do hedgehogs make love?
Verrry carefully....

Posted on 12 May 2012 12:42:53 BDT
Rick Terr says:
from what i can see people are only interested in being sheep, copying what everyone else is doing, and reading fiction that will never make them question anything ever.

people spend more time thinking they need to be online pontificating than reading any of the new factual or inspiring information out there.

don't be disheartened.

In reply to an earlier post on 12 May 2012 12:44:07 BDT
Rick Terr says:
and you are the universal version of this archetype. thats why you're on the computer belittling others with your self-appointed pontifications

Posted on 12 May 2012 21:23:43 BDT
Ian Jury says:
I've just posted my first novel - for me its a marketing tool I never meant to be an author - just part of a life's work to help make peoples lives extraordinary - Predication 2012 - what would you do if the world were to end on the 21st December this year?

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2012 15:38:53 BDT
I wouldn't buy any Christmas presents

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2012 15:46:15 BDT
Ian Jury says:
Yes that's one positive I guess Christmas is cancelled - what would you spend the money on you saved on the 20th December 2012 or before??

Posted on 14 May 2012 17:41:47 BDT
Jorge says:
I wouldn't write a book that will be out-of-date in 7 months. That is what I would do. Would you read a novel about people who think the Universe will collpse in... 1999? No, right?

In reply to an earlier post on 14 May 2012 20:25:25 BDT
Maybe if it was tagged as Historical fiction...

In reply to an earlier post on 19 May 2012 20:43:38 BDT
that's false. my books are doing quite nicely, thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2012 07:33:57 BDT
Blilith says:
Dear Ian,

Get it reviewed, if you get one good review then you will get more and then it will sell. I review books for other Kindle publishers and self published paper books. I do it for nothing, just a copy of the book. I speed read so I can get a review out in a couple of days. I also proof read, again for free. I write as well, but mostly poetry. I am an artist, exhibited, and a restorationist.
If you are interested let me know.

Blilith

In reply to an earlier post on 20 May 2012 07:48:10 BDT
Blilith says:
Dear Ian Jury,

The end of the World has been predicted so many times, it has not happened yet and is not likely this year. I think you will see Christmas. If it does happen you will not care anyway if you have spent all your money on presents because you cannot take it with you.....

To get back to publishing, make sure that the formatting is correct, I read a lot of Kindle books that have the last part of a paragraph underhanging, very off putting for me. It stops the flow of the text.

Posted on 24 May 2012 01:43:19 BDT
Here are a couple of cheap short stories written by a crazy American girl. They are only 10-15 pages long. They are odd but I enjoyed them:

Everyday is the First Day, Everyday is the Fifth Day: Five Days in the Nut House, Five Days with Schizophrenic Lynda (A Few Pages of My Musings While Incarcerated) (Everyday Is...)

Everyday is the First Day, Everyday is the 147th Day: This is All I've Got (Drug Rehabilitation Journal) (Every Day Is...)

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 00:28:34 BDT
C ODonoghue says:
Only bands like the Monkees never had a following before they had a hit. Every real band which had a hit had a following before they were signed, especially the Beatles and the Stones who started it all. Record sales have gone to the street and books are following. It's winner take all and the winners are Amazon, Apple and unsigned authors and bands. Unlike record companies which still fund expensive videos and get records played on the radio, book publishers have rarely spent much on promotion and have only acted as authors mentors, editors, funders and sellers into book shops. In 2012 paperback sales are down 25% in the UK, the only independent and small chain book shops left now tend to be close-outs, Borders went in liquidation in 2009, Waterstones are now selling Kindles. WHSmith stores are in dire need of a refurb with increased profits produced by efficiency not sales, which are down. Supermarkets, airports and stations only sell top selling paperbacks and as Kindle and the tablets catch on there will be less and less demand for retail book shelf space, meaning its curtains for most publishers. New authors will soon ONLY be of interest to publishers if they are already selling well as self-published, why would any publisher take the risk with someone who has no track record and no following when there will be plenty who can prove their sales appeal with hard Amazon numbers and not hyperbole.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 00:30:29 BDT
C ODonoghue says:
Only bands like the Monkees never had a following before they had a hit. Every real band which had a hit had a following before they were signed, especially the Beatles and the Stones who started it all. Record sales have gone to the street and books are following. It's winner take all and the winners are Amazon, Apple and unsigned authors and bands. Unlike record companies which still fund expensive videos and get records played on the radio, book publishers have rarely spent much on promotion and have only acted as authors mentors, editors, funders and sellers into book shops. In 2012 paperback sales are down 25% in the UK, the only independent and small chain book shops left now tend to be close-outs, Borders went in liquidation in 2009, Waterstones are now selling Kindles. WHSmith stores are in dire need of a refurb with increased profits produced by efficiency not sales, which are down. Supermarkets, airports and stations only sell top selling paperbacks and as Kindle and the tablets catch on there will be less and less demand for retail book shelf space, meaning its curtains for most publishers. New authors will soon ONLY be of interest to publishers if they are already selling well as self-published, why would any publisher take the risk with someone who has no track record and no following when there will be plenty who can prove their sales appeal with hard Amazon numbers and not hyperbole.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 02:32:44 BDT
Marion Stein says:
Since Amazon created the Meet Our Authors forum, the original poster here might consider restarting the conversation there. Since Chris objects so strongly to self-uploaders invading his forum, he shouldn't feel any need to follow the thread there. In fact, he can write to Amazon and they'll probably move it.

As for everyone else, there's no point in arguing over the merits of your work or even good books you've read that were self-published. You won't convince Chris. That's not why he's here. If you insist on going forward with this conversation here, than might I suggest putting him on "ignore" and carrying on?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jul 2012 08:35:40 BDT
Catherine says:
I'm interested Blilith. how do i get in touch with you to send you free book?
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