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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jun 2012 10:48:22 BDT
"Besides, crucifixion is a slow, horrible death, and that's old Sparticus' fate."

At least it gets you out in the open air.

In fairness, his body was never recovered.

Posted on 27 Jun 2012 11:16:46 BDT
Scarlet Lady says:
Qunicey - "that's it Sam!" "what Quincey" "Call the Chief Sam - I've got it!"

Posted on 28 Jun 2012 02:57:31 BDT
Last edited by the author on 28 Jun 2012 03:11:39 BDT
Ryan - L.O.B. was where I got the phrase from but it's true, it was a slow, horrible death, glad somebody got the reference. In truth it was hardly the best thing the Romans ever did for us, crucifixion had been around for ages. The Romans honed it though and made it more horrific than ever (by adding the 'sadile'). I suppose the Romans woudn't have allowed Spartacus' body to be reclaimed in order to avoid any sort of shrine et cetera. They were like that, the Romans. Great roads though, and sanitation.

I once heard about a famous movie star who, checking in at a hotel said 'I'm Kirk Douglas', and then the person behind him said 'No, I'm Kirk Douglas' and then the person behind him said 'No, I'm Kirk Douglas' and so on.

Quincey was the American in Dracula. He's fatally stabbed in the final confict with the vampire. A tragic case really, but a central character, so it's not all bad. Actually, I wonder if anyone did a post-mortem on him. Stoker doesn't say.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2012 09:50:39 BDT
gille liath says:
Yeah, I was only kidding. Bit of a show-off if I remember?

Posted on 28 Jun 2012 12:31:45 BDT
Anthony says:
I'd be Sir Stephen - probably from the second novel, where she brought the fantasy down to earth with a bump. In the first he's too perfect to be true, and is assumed to be rich just because he's an English Sir, but in the second he's a chancer doing dodgy arms deals. He's also got over the fear that he can't dominate O if he loves her.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2012 21:33:47 BDT
monica says:
Huh? Sir Stephen as arms dealer? This can't possibly be Pauline Reage; has someone been ripping off her story and her characters? I hope it's not yet another instance of someone continuing a story written by a now-dead author & dumbing it down for mass market . . . Or is it indeed Reage's novel you mean? If so I suppose I, er, admire your willingness to admit that you like the idea of extreme sadism; certainly I hope you warn potential partners about the imprisonment & branding and all . . .

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jun 2012 23:31:45 BDT
Anthony says:
As I said, this is in book 2, "Return to the Chateau." It was written by a lady who claimed to be the original "Pauline Reage," but given the original's obscure antecendents we can never be sure. I find it credible precisely because it's not a repeat of the first book: given the many years between the two, it could well be a mature writer looking back with scepticism and perhaps some embarrassment at her youthful fantasies, and trying to put a scaffolding of realism under them.

So we are told how the Chateau pays for itself (as a cynic would have assumed, it's a high-end brothel,) where Sir Stephen's money comes from (arms smuggling is just one of his dodgy deals,) and so on. If you don't want to draw a map of Fairyland (as Chesterton put it in a very different context) you won't like it.

And yes, all my partners have known and approved, not to mention enjoyed...

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jun 2012 20:31:25 BDT
Last edited by the author on 29 Jun 2012 20:34:58 BDT
monica says:
Ah, hadn't known there was a sequel . Whilst looking about for evidence on its authorship, found that some people believe that Dominique Aury's name was itself a pseudonym for an A. Declos. Must look further into this--thanks for setting me on to a mystery to toy with.

Haven't read original for a long time, but its tenor as I remember didn't really allow for mundane concerns like financing the chateau . . . but as you say there was long hiatus between the two books, perhaps Reage/Aury/Declos became more earthbound as she aged.

What was the context of the Chesterton quote? Thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jun 2012 22:50:20 BDT
Anthony says:
It occurs in "The Flying Inn" (an excellent fantasy of revolution by the common folk, ruined by Islamophobia that's all the worse for being laughably ignorant.) After discussing a winding road they're driving on, the romantic Irish hero composes "The Rolling English Road" ("The rolling English drunkard made the rolling English road.") His more prosaic companion, who knows the district, then starts to recite a (rhymed) catalogue of the actual practical reasons for each twist and turn in the route; after a couple of stanzas the hero interrupts to protest that he's ruining the magic by "making a map of Fairyland."

Of course, around the same time Tolkien was writing a magical fantasy with a map, so the line went out of date very fast.

My favourite quote from the book, which alas has not gone out of date, is:
"It is the tragedy of law-abiding men in England that they must respect the law without ever being sure what the law is."

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jun 2012 23:02:56 BDT
gille liath says:
Oh, Mr Chesterton, you're so paradoxical...

"Of course, around the same time Tolkien was writing a magical fantasy with a map, so the line went out of date very fast."

I think that would've been a bit later, actually; and, though a 'magical fantasy' if you like, Tolkien would've been quick to say it is definitely *not* set in fairyland - he probably would've agreed with Chesterton about making maps of that place.

Sorry to be pedantic, but at least I'm not being paradoxical...
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