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In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 19:34:00 BDT
Of course, my attention span is lacking sometimes. It will be promoted on your behalf later today.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 19:45:26 BDT
I've no idea how successful the tweeting will be. But it will occur continually with the books we have, I don't feel small, at least no smaller than normal. : )

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 20:01:30 BDT
Jim Webster says:
As I said, an interesting experiment.

In most of these forums and websites, the number of people is small, but the proportion interested is higher than the population average.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 20:08:51 BDT
You are probably, certainly right Jim. We think we have boosted sales of the unmentionable book. We seem have a hardcore 3000 on twitter who are interested in fantasy. The rest? Who knows?. But we keep re-tweeting. We know we hook a few, here and there. A small voice is better than no voice at all.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 20:53:10 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 21:04:12 BDT
Deleted or not. We do indeed. Spoken like a creative writer.

Posted on 9 Jun 2012 21:06:14 BDT
Jim Webster says:
why on earth was it deleted!
I struggle to work out what I said!

Posted on 9 Jun 2012 21:08:28 BDT
'Yes, we keep trying, we keep looking for the chink of light, for 'the green fields beyond' That is what you said. : ))

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 21:22:43 BDT
Jim Webster says:
Well ''the green fields beyond" is the title of more than one well known book, none of them written by me so it's not self promotion.
Does any of it mean something disgusting in American?

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 21:31:27 BDT
I doubt I am as well red as you. : )) I do find it curious that self promotion is so frowned upon. How can a new writer such as yourself succeed without recourse to such behaviour? The achievement of writing Swords for a Dead Lady, that is the title, yes? You must be very proud of, only to find that it is unmentionable on this forum.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 22:25:36 BDT
Jim Webster says:
It is before my time here, but apparently self promotion was allowed, but pretty well all the forums were being disrupted by authors who were posting forty seven identical thousand word posts plugging their books.
So Amazon decided that the only place this was allowed was across in the Meet Our Authors forum.
Even here, there are threads which are discussions, and people don't mind self promotion, but 'within context' as it were. There are also threads which are started purely for people to self promote.
The sort of self promotion some people were adopting is, in my opinion, counter-productive.
Frankly I, wearing my 'reader' hat, find it irritating.
I also feel that if someone claims to be a writer, then surely they are better than having to resort to dumping the same post in every thread. Even on the 'promo' threads, some (and I'm one of them) try to make the plug different every time.
Another problem, related to the desperation that so many writers obviously feel, is writing their own reviews, and creating 'sock puppets' to plug their book for them, and even worse, to denigrate the books of others. You can see these sock puppets operating across a number of web forums, and by definition they are the ones that are being done badly. Those done well we probably never see.
I think that there is a gut feeling among many that those using these techniques are, like those who incontinently splatter threads with their promos, bringing us all into disrepute. Across on .com there are a lot of readers who feel that authors shouldn't post except on the MOA forum.

Posted on 9 Jun 2012 22:36:50 BDT
Desperate writers take desperate measures. Done one book. Tweeting about your book tomorrow. I am now on a quest to promote as many new writers as I can, they won't need to plug this place any longer Jim. Point them in my direction. I will attempt to relieve them of their frustration.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 22:55:28 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Jun 2012 22:57:23 BDT
Jim Webster says:
We have a serious issue.
The model is broken. One estimate is that there are 1,000,000 ebooks on Amazon.com.
We have people giving away their books and being pleased they've given away 10,000 copies!
And then discover they sell 17 (as was quoted in one case).
There are 50,568 free books listed on .com.
The publishing industry has poured its' slush pile out and it's been put onto Kindle.
I have looked at a lot of the books that have been plugged in the last couple of months using the 'look inside' feature. Some of them are good, an awful lot of them are frankly very badly written. I've not seen enough of each book to work out whether they've got a plot and character development, but they're stylistically awful.
The good ones are in danger of sinking without trace because there are no longer the gate keepers. A lot of reviews are worthless, too many small groups are pushing each others books without regard to quality.
At the moment the sifting though the slush pile has been moved from the publishers to the readers, and very soon a lot of them are going to walk away. At the moment a lot of them have kindles bulging with unread free books, half of which might be unreadable.

How do people choose a new series, or a new author (which is where this thread started from).
Who is going to help them pick their way through the vast sea of dross?
If you were to set up a website with a team of good, dedicated readers who would each honestly review one book a week, you'd be swamped.

Posted on 9 Jun 2012 22:57:52 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Jun 2012 22:58:55 BDT
But what is good to some people is bad to others, people make up there minds with that window thingy. You can point me in the direction of any good ones you find, and we'll give them the promotion they need. : ))

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 23:09:20 BDT
Jim Webster says:
Well one I've actually bought is Few Are Chosen (The K'Barthan Trilogy)
Another two I've got down to buy at some point is The Mystic Accountants (The Banned Underground) and A Sword for Hire (The Silent Blade Chronicles)

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jun 2012 23:14:07 BDT
Thanks Jim. They've been cut, pasted and stored. They'll get a mention. At least I'm back to doing what I was supposed to be doing. Promoting!

Posted on 10 Jun 2012 18:44:51 BDT
ceri says:
Robert Rankin is so far the best auther out there, sometimes he can miss the mark but this is rare! Have steamed through Tom Holt, good and worth a read , now looking for a new auther in the same vein, what's Christopher Moore like? Any other authors to be recommended??

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012 18:52:16 BDT
Garscadden says:
I'd guess some Amazon bot thinks you may have used a derogatory word for Chinese.

But that would be a bit extreme.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012 18:59:28 BDT
Jim Webster says:
Jericho Jones repeated it word for word and he wasn't deleted. Perhaps he is monitored by a less enigmatic bot?

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In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 14:20:33 BDT
Alicia says:
Hello,
I have just finished a great new book which has great magic, and a world that has been brilliantly crafted - it has battles and adventure - which is my type of thing! Enchantress
I have other recommendations if you want!
Cheers
Shell

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jun 2012 14:41:00 BDT
Well I've registered thanks for the invite! Now all I've got to do is figure out where to leave this link. I am not a computer boffin! But given time I may succeed.

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