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Initial post: 5 Mar 2011 13:24:37 GMT
Is it worth listing anymore. Zoverstocks is reducing the prices by thousands everyday, losing money not just for us sellers but also amazon.!! When will amazon wise up to the fact sellers like zoverstocks, who cut prices EVERY HOUR to be the cheapest, just drive prices down, reducing proifits for us and commision for amazon. Its a no Brainer, Kick em off....!!!!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Mar 2011 14:05:10 GMT
Brass Neck says:
As a buyer who has often used Zoverstocks because they're the cheapest and the products are aat least very good and sometimes brand new (I've only ever had one cd that was obviously below par and they gave a refund straight away) I say long may they continue! Do you KNOW they are making losses (and if so how do you know?)? Amazon presumably are glad of ANY commission - the goods could be sold on ebay or Play instead & then Amazon get nowt. Indeed I always check all three sources as Zoverstocks have been known to ask significantly different prices on 'zon & Play. Sorry if other traders are hurting but my viewpoint is purely that of a consumer.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Mar 2011 23:03:53 GMT
Pawn says:
Zoverstocks are the best - offer the best prices on dvds - no point in DORSET TRADER kicking up a fuss- Deal with it - you have really given a bad example of your business on this post - I now feel that anything I purchase from you will be a pure rip off because you are only looking to make the most margin and not look after your customers like Zoverstocks do - I back Zoverstocks all the way and they are clearly the most honest sellers of DVDS on the web today - Keep up the good work - I have purchased loads of dvds from them and every transaction has been a pleasure

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Mar 2011 23:40:59 GMT
Well if you sell under the name Dorset Trader then I'd say that since 13.24 on 5/03/11, no it's not worth your while listing anymore.

Posted on 13 Mar 2011 20:03:22 GMT
E. M. Inglis says:
i think zoverstocks is amazing. excellent prices. great delivery times and brilliant products. if other sellers don't like it then try listing your own items cheaper than you do to get customers to buy them. as a buyer i want what i want for a great price and am glad someone can provide this. it makes me laugh every time i see a listing that is more than the listed price of the site, so well done zoverstocks for providing an a* service.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Mar 2011 21:04:26 GMT
DZiggy says:
Zoverstocks are excellent cos they use great strategy. I have hardly had any probs with them plus they deal with problems very well as far as I know. If u can do better u try, thats competition!

Posted on 16 Mar 2011 18:50:41 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 16 Mar 2011 19:14:15 GMT
Brass Neck says:
Which people Cherokee Lady?

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Mar 2011 19:46:23 GMT
Pawn says:
Has DORSET TRADER paid you to post this Cherokee Lady???

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Mar 2011 20:13:39 GMT
If you don't want to play the game, then leave the table to those that do Dorset Trader.

As for Zon's commission, have you looked at the sales quantity?

Surely let the customer decide who they wish to order from is what I advocate!

Posted on 21 Mar 2011 17:00:18 GMT
Dark Moon says:
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Posted on 29 Mar 2011 22:19:42 BDT
I also think they are good, they offer great value and the DVDs are always in mint condition. One of my DVDs didn't turn up and without any hesitation they refunded me :)

Posted on 30 Mar 2011 12:39:41 BDT
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David S says:
While as a seller I sympathise with Dorset Trader all I can say that it is a free market and you will probably not be able to compete on price with zoverstocks unless you adopt their business model which is as follows - buy them very cheap, pile them high and sell them for whatever you can get for them be it 1p or £100. So where do they get their stock from? Ever heard of a company called Music Magpie well guess who they also trade as? Yes its zoverstocks. And since they used to offer no more than £3.00 for CDs or DVDs and more typically amounts nearer 30p - once I was even offered 10p for a CD - you can see how they keep their prices low and they do use software that tracks lowest prices and undercuts them by a penny. How can you fight back 1) P&P all of the items I have bought from zoverstocks Amazon/ have been sent second class so point out that you send 1st class if you can - UPDATE the last two items I have ordered from zovertocks have been sent by 1st Class post from Guernsey obviously to take advantage of the VAT loophole but it still want harm you to point out if you post 1st Class 2) Delivery time even allowing for 2nd class post in my experience delivery can take over a week which since they, until recently, sent items from Macclesfied which is less than 30 miles from where I live always puzzled me so point out that you only confirm posting when the item has actually gone! 3) Packaging again in my experience all items have been sent out in a jiffy bag and though the jiffy bag is new they include no additional packaging and no invoice - I assume to keep their costs down - so if you can point out that you can do better than that. 4) Quality Control all their items are described as Very Good on Amazon/ and while most of them presumably are when you see what Music Magpie will accept condition-wise the items you sell to them I can only say does not come up to the definition of Very Good by Amazon/ In my own experience most of the CDs and DVDs I have bought from them have scratches and marks on them and at least two CD have been so badly scratched I would have descibed them as Acceptable. Now it appears you might be able to get a refund or replacement if the item is badly damaged but who really wants the hassle. So if you can stress your quality control especially if you have 100% feedback. 5) Its only a penny so do not get into an underbidding war if you offer good service and can stress that rely on your feedback, P&P, etc if it is better than zoverstocks and you can even offer to send 2p with the item - I have seen this suggested in another forum.

I hope this helps and I have the forlorn hope that I have not offended the zoverstocks thought police, sorry, fan club and perhaps they might understand a little about how zoverstocks operates and why one day they may get an item in poor condition or that does not work.

And finally the bad news is they are not alone as zoverstocks took this business model from Europe so there are other similar traders out there, i.e. music_overstocks comes to mind.

PS I have just seen an article in a recent Guardian which mentioned in passing that zoverstocks were looking to declare a £4 million pound profit on a turnover of £30 million for their current trading year - so clearly their business model works.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Apr 2011 15:07:22 BDT
herronrath says:
Well DORSET TRADER, having made a purchase from you and discovered there was a DVD missing and then you had the nerve to be rude to me when I asked what you planned to do about it - yes STOP LISTING...! You are a bad example of a trader and Amazon should ban you from advertising on their website. Deal fairly with people who buy your products otherwise you should expect them to shop elsewhere - such as Zoverstock. That's where I will be doing my shopping from now on.

Posted on 5 Apr 2011 06:34:03 BDT
Hezzy says:
Price matters to most people, so if there cheapest what will be will be, personally i have never had a problem with anything i have bought from them , so i say long live Zoverstocks.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Apr 2011 14:16:06 BDT
herronrath says:
This is Dorset Traders reply to a complaint from a customer who advised that part of the purchase was missing...

!st prize for being the rudest amazon customer i have ever come across. Arrogant and extremely single minded. Amazon have many hundreds of thousands of marketplace traders. If you have problems with all of them, i m wondering where the problem lies. Purchasing an item does not entitle you to treat people any different;ly from how you would expect toi be treated. I have dealt with many thousands of customers on ebay and on amazon and have very good relations with nearly all of them. There is always one bad apple in the pack tho.

...and this is the customers reply.............
You silly person, or is it that you are just someone who enjoys cynically manipulating the buyer of your sub-standard product and delivery service. You know perfectly well that it would cost me more to return this item and I HAVE read the feedback from other buyers, I now know that you treat others the same. I am unlikely to get a refund because you enjoy operating the way you do.

Fortunately for me Amazon provides me with a method of commenting on your distinct lack of manners - never mind your complete absence of customer care. And fortunately for me and other buyers we can go elsewhere to make our purchases. Companies like Zoverstocks will obviously be my first choice from now on.


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Posted on 5 Apr 2011 20:48:25 BDT
saying they should be kicked it because their prices are lower is a bit anti-capitalist, its how markets works, its what makes our money retain any value, if amazon was monoplising none of us would have any thing.

Posted on 10 Apr 2011 08:20:41 BDT
Aaron says:
I love them and have built up quite a decent cd collection, although I still have more to get. If not zoverstocks it would be somebody else selling at a decent price. Amazon is not all about sellers, it is about finding the best bargain too. A marketplace. Keep it up zoverstocks. And just one idea. One parcel for ten or more orders in one delivery?

Posted on 10 Apr 2011 08:34:15 BDT
GM says:
Dorset Trader....sounds like a cheapo market stall, or, a carbooter! Why don't Harrods demand that Poundland stop trading because they sell cheaper crap? I regularly use zoverstocks and have had no problems.

Posted on 16 Apr 2011 22:46:07 BDT
Ban zoverstocks??? are you mad they have every good cd i have ever searched for even the rarer ones for unbelievable prices sure they're used but its a cd/dvd its not like it's pre-eaten food.....i love zoverstocks i need them to make a shop on the high street i would be there constantly!! Zoverstocks ftw!!

Posted on 16 Apr 2011 22:54:12 BDT
If Zoverstocks are making obviously doesn't matter to them..? I mean how long have they been going? They must have other things other than this in their lives this is just an excellent business giving excellent service/prices to people who are fed up being overcharged for items which should be cheaper anyway..... Zoverstocks ftw!

Posted on 24 Apr 2011 16:07:07 BDT
Zoverstocks making losses i doubt very much, lets take two examples District 9 Zoverstocks sell price £1.09 buy price 39p profit of 70p. Inception on dvd Zoverstocks sell price £4.16 buy price £1.19 profit of £2.97. Now these are just two examples but times this by x amount of times they sell this item and them profits soon added up, yet of course the margins are at times VERY VERY small. Yet if you offer brilliant customer service and supply quality used items or even brand new items sometimes for as little as 1p (yeap i had a brand new sealed dvd from them after i found out how to work the system in my favour) there will continue to get repeat business.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 May 2011 18:55:41 BDT
I agree. I sell stuff on amazon quite often and, while it can be frustrating to be undercut, I still manage to sell stuff. Zoverstocks are taking the used market and bringing it into the 21st century. I have never had any bad dealings with them. As consumers, we can take advantage of price wars between these companies. I have a long wishlist in which i mark the most expensive and cheapest price for all items. When i see prices plummet, I know there is a price war that i can take advantage of. When I cannot sell things at a profit because of amazon charges, I just go to ebay instead!

Posted on 23 May 2011 19:15:43 BDT
LOL should Zoverstocks be banned because they uncut you ???? are you serious ?

Why dont you just sell your good are more reasonable prices? I only find Zoverstocks the cheapest on old items anyway and if you are trying to sell a 12month DVD for over £5 (for example) you deserve to be undercut!
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